Comments on: Demands presented to Fresno State administration http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/11/04/17489/ Serving California State University, Fresno since 1922. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:24:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: A Real Alumnus http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/11/04/17489/comment-page-1/#comment-40501 A Real Alumnus Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:59:09 +0000 http://collegian.csufresno.edu/?p=17489#comment-40501 Actually Tired, athletics does NOT attract large donations to the academic side of the University. The Friends of the University (Fresno State alumni) did a study a couple years back which determined the athletic department has a negative impact upon the image of the campus among potential major donors. No one wants to donate to a campus whose public ambassadors (athletes) are committing academic fraud and the occasional murder, not to mention rampant drug abuse. In addition, the athletic program has been a burden on the campus financially for most of the last 15 years. The program has been in the black only three out of 15 years. Two years ago, the program was $1.5 million in the red. That money would've paid for 200 course sections and 50 faculty (Dr. Welty's numbers on Tuesday). By and large, students don't support athletics at Fresno State. And, the community has voted with its feet since Jerry Tarkanian was fired, the campus lost those lawsuits, the Ray Lopes fiasco, the hiring of Steve Cleveland over Vance Walberg, and the football team's inability to win big games or the WAC title. Athletics are great. However, in this time of shortages, NO taxpayers funds should be used to pay for any intercollegiate athletic program at any California public university. If the community wants it bad enough, the community should pay for it. Not taxpayers and certainly not students. The $32/semester fee for athletics should be abolished. Actually Tired, athletics does NOT attract large donations to the academic side of the University. The Friends of the University (Fresno State alumni) did a study a couple years back which determined the athletic department has a negative impact upon the image of the campus among potential major donors. No one wants to donate to a campus whose public ambassadors (athletes) are committing academic fraud and the occasional murder, not to mention rampant drug abuse.

In addition, the athletic program has been a burden on the campus financially for most of the last 15 years. The program has been in the black only three out of 15 years. Two years ago, the program was $1.5 million in the red. That money would’ve paid for 200 course sections and 50 faculty (Dr. Welty’s numbers on Tuesday).

By and large, students don’t support athletics at Fresno State. And, the community has voted with its feet since Jerry Tarkanian was fired, the campus lost those lawsuits, the Ray Lopes fiasco, the hiring of Steve Cleveland over Vance Walberg, and the football team’s inability to win big games or the WAC title.

Athletics are great. However, in this time of shortages, NO taxpayers funds should be used to pay for any intercollegiate athletic program at any California public university. If the community wants it bad enough, the community should pay for it. Not taxpayers and certainly not students. The $32/semester fee for athletics should be abolished.

]]> By: A Real Alumnus http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/11/04/17489/comment-page-1/#comment-48550 A Real Alumnus Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:59:00 +0000 http://collegian.csufresno.edu/?p=17489#comment-48550 Actually Tired, athletics does NOT attract large donations to the academic side of the University. The Friends of the University (Fresno State alumni) did a study a couple years back which determined the athletic department has a negative impact upon the image of the campus among potential major donors. No one wants to donate to a campus whose public ambassadors (athletes) are committing academic fraud and the occasional murder, not to mention rampant drug abuse. In addition, the athletic program has been a burden on the campus financially for most of the last 15 years. The program has been in the black only three out of 15 years. Two years ago, the program was $1.5 million in the red. That money would've paid for 200 course sections and 50 faculty (Dr. Welty's numbers on Tuesday). By and large, students don't support athletics at Fresno State. And, the community has voted with its feet since Jerry Tarkanian was fired, the campus lost those lawsuits, the Ray Lopes fiasco, the hiring of Steve Cleveland over Vance Walberg, and the football team's inability to win big games or the WAC title. Athletics are great. However, in this time of shortages, NO taxpayers funds should be used to pay for any intercollegiate athletic program at any California public university. If the community wants it bad enough, the community should pay for it. Not taxpayers and certainly not students. The $32/semester fee for athletics should be abolished. Actually Tired, athletics does NOT attract large donations to the academic side of the University. The Friends of the University (Fresno State alumni) did a study a couple years back which determined the athletic department has a negative impact upon the image of the campus among potential major donors. No one wants to donate to a campus whose public ambassadors (athletes) are committing academic fraud and the occasional murder, not to mention rampant drug abuse.

In addition, the athletic program has been a burden on the campus financially for most of the last 15 years. The program has been in the black only three out of 15 years. Two years ago, the program was $1.5 million in the red. That money would’ve paid for 200 course sections and 50 faculty (Dr. Welty’s numbers on Tuesday).

By and large, students don’t support athletics at Fresno State. And, the community has voted with its feet since Jerry Tarkanian was fired, the campus lost those lawsuits, the Ray Lopes fiasco, the hiring of Steve Cleveland over Vance Walberg, and the football team’s inability to win big games or the WAC title.

Athletics are great. However, in this time of shortages, NO taxpayers funds should be used to pay for any intercollegiate athletic program at any California public university. If the community wants it bad enough, the community should pay for it. Not taxpayers and certainly not students. The $32/semester fee for athletics should be abolished.

]]> By: A Real Alumnus http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/11/04/17489/comment-page-1/#comment-48551 A Real Alumnus Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:59:00 +0000 http://collegian.csufresno.edu/?p=17489#comment-48551 Actually Tired, athletics does NOT attract large donations to the academic side of the University. The Friends of the University (Fresno State alumni) did a study a couple years back which determined the athletic department has a negative impact upon the image of the campus among potential major donors. No one wants to donate to a campus whose public ambassadors (athletes) are committing academic fraud and the occasional murder, not to mention rampant drug abuse. In addition, the athletic program has been a burden on the campus financially for most of the last 15 years. The program has been in the black only three out of 15 years. Two years ago, the program was $1.5 million in the red. That money would've paid for 200 course sections and 50 faculty (Dr. Welty's numbers on Tuesday). By and large, students don't support athletics at Fresno State. And, the community has voted with its feet since Jerry Tarkanian was fired, the campus lost those lawsuits, the Ray Lopes fiasco, the hiring of Steve Cleveland over Vance Walberg, and the football team's inability to win big games or the WAC title. Athletics are great. However, in this time of shortages, NO taxpayers funds should be used to pay for any intercollegiate athletic program at any California public university. If the community wants it bad enough, the community should pay for it. Not taxpayers and certainly not students. The $32/semester fee for athletics should be abolished. Actually Tired, athletics does NOT attract large donations to the academic side of the University. The Friends of the University (Fresno State alumni) did a study a couple years back which determined the athletic department has a negative impact upon the image of the campus among potential major donors. No one wants to donate to a campus whose public ambassadors (athletes) are committing academic fraud and the occasional murder, not to mention rampant drug abuse.

In addition, the athletic program has been a burden on the campus financially for most of the last 15 years. The program has been in the black only three out of 15 years. Two years ago, the program was $1.5 million in the red. That money would’ve paid for 200 course sections and 50 faculty (Dr. Welty’s numbers on Tuesday).

By and large, students don’t support athletics at Fresno State. And, the community has voted with its feet since Jerry Tarkanian was fired, the campus lost those lawsuits, the Ray Lopes fiasco, the hiring of Steve Cleveland over Vance Walberg, and the football team’s inability to win big games or the WAC title.

Athletics are great. However, in this time of shortages, NO taxpayers funds should be used to pay for any intercollegiate athletic program at any California public university. If the community wants it bad enough, the community should pay for it. Not taxpayers and certainly not students. The $32/semester fee for athletics should be abolished.

]]> By: Tired of The Complaining http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/11/04/17489/comment-page-1/#comment-40500 Tired of The Complaining Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:51:51 +0000 http://collegian.csufresno.edu/?p=17489#comment-40500 I am tired of hearing all this complaining about the increase in tuition and I think that it is being direct at the wrong people. Fire Welty his lousy $300,000 salary, free travel, let his state owned home go vacant and his vehicle stipend is not going to fix this budget deficit. I am a student who has paid for most of my college education on my own and you don't see me complaining about the fee increase, yes it sucks but need I remind you WE ATTEND ON OF THE CHEAPEST INSTITUTIONS IN THE NATION! Our education is highly subsidized by the taxpayer. We should be fortunate to be able to receive the quality education we do for the price tag it is. Who ever came up with the whole college is a right not a privilege is badly mistaken. It is a privilege. In my opinion if you can't afford it, overcome adversity, make it happen, heck get a student loan, there are companies ready and willing to give them and it will more than pay for itself. In response to a real Alumnus, are you kidding me? Get rid of athletics do you realize how many donors we would lose in other areas of the university as well? Fresno State athletics is what makes Fresno State Great. Its part of what gives us prestige, and personally I am proud to call myself a bulldog because of it. I think that the students who feel so strongly about what is happening at Fresno State need to change their focus to those in Sacramento that is the only place that change to fix this can be made. This is beyond Fresno State and beyond Dr.Welty the power lies with our legislators. I am tired of hearing all this complaining about the increase in tuition and I think that it is being direct at the wrong people. Fire Welty his lousy $300,000 salary, free travel, let his state owned home go vacant and his vehicle stipend is not going to fix this budget deficit. I am a student who has paid for most of my college education on my own and you don’t see me complaining about the fee increase, yes it sucks but need I remind you WE ATTEND ON OF THE CHEAPEST INSTITUTIONS IN THE NATION! Our education is highly subsidized by the taxpayer. We should be fortunate to be able to receive the quality education we do for the price tag it is. Who ever came up with the whole college is a right not a privilege is badly mistaken. It is a privilege. In my opinion if you can’t afford it, overcome adversity, make it happen, heck get a student loan, there are companies ready and willing to give them and it will more than pay for itself. In response to a real Alumnus, are you kidding me? Get rid of athletics do you realize how many donors we would lose in other areas of the university as well? Fresno State athletics is what makes Fresno State Great. Its part of what gives us prestige, and personally I am proud to call myself a bulldog because of it. I think that the students who feel so strongly about what is happening at Fresno State need to change their focus to those in Sacramento that is the only place that change to fix this can be made. This is beyond Fresno State and beyond Dr.Welty the power lies with our legislators.

]]> By: Tired of The Complaining http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/11/04/17489/comment-page-1/#comment-48548 Tired of The Complaining Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:51:00 +0000 http://collegian.csufresno.edu/?p=17489#comment-48548 I am tired of hearing all this complaining about the increase in tuition and I think that it is being direct at the wrong people. Fire Welty his lousy $300,000 salary, free travel, let his state owned home go vacant and his vehicle stipend is not going to fix this budget deficit. I am a student who has paid for most of my college education on my own and you don't see me complaining about the fee increase, yes it sucks but need I remind you WE ATTEND ON OF THE CHEAPEST INSTITUTIONS IN THE NATION! Our education is highly subsidized by the taxpayer. We should be fortunate to be able to receive the quality education we do for the price tag it is. Who ever came up with the whole college is a right not a privilege is badly mistaken. It is a privilege. In my opinion if you can't afford it, overcome adversity, make it happen, heck get a student loan, there are companies ready and willing to give them and it will more than pay for itself. In response to a real Alumnus, are you kidding me? Get rid of athletics do you realize how many donors we would lose in other areas of the university as well? Fresno State athletics is what makes Fresno State Great. Its part of what gives us prestige, and personally I am proud to call myself a bulldog because of it. I think that the students who feel so strongly about what is happening at Fresno State need to change their focus to those in Sacramento that is the only place that change to fix this can be made. This is beyond Fresno State and beyond Dr.Welty the power lies with our legislators. I am tired of hearing all this complaining about the increase in tuition and I think that it is being direct at the wrong people. Fire Welty his lousy $300,000 salary, free travel, let his state owned home go vacant and his vehicle stipend is not going to fix this budget deficit. I am a student who has paid for most of my college education on my own and you don’t see me complaining about the fee increase, yes it sucks but need I remind you WE ATTEND ON OF THE CHEAPEST INSTITUTIONS IN THE NATION! Our education is highly subsidized by the taxpayer. We should be fortunate to be able to receive the quality education we do for the price tag it is. Who ever came up with the whole college is a right not a privilege is badly mistaken. It is a privilege. In my opinion if you can’t afford it, overcome adversity, make it happen, heck get a student loan, there are companies ready and willing to give them and it will more than pay for itself. In response to a real Alumnus, are you kidding me? Get rid of athletics do you realize how many donors we would lose in other areas of the university as well? Fresno State athletics is what makes Fresno State Great. Its part of what gives us prestige, and personally I am proud to call myself a bulldog because of it. I think that the students who feel so strongly about what is happening at Fresno State need to change their focus to those in Sacramento that is the only place that change to fix this can be made. This is beyond Fresno State and beyond Dr.Welty the power lies with our legislators.

]]> By: Tired of The Complaining http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/11/04/17489/comment-page-1/#comment-48549 Tired of The Complaining Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:51:00 +0000 http://collegian.csufresno.edu/?p=17489#comment-48549 I am tired of hearing all this complaining about the increase in tuition and I think that it is being direct at the wrong people. Fire Welty his lousy $300,000 salary, free travel, let his state owned home go vacant and his vehicle stipend is not going to fix this budget deficit. I am a student who has paid for most of my college education on my own and you don't see me complaining about the fee increase, yes it sucks but need I remind you WE ATTEND ON OF THE CHEAPEST INSTITUTIONS IN THE NATION! Our education is highly subsidized by the taxpayer. We should be fortunate to be able to receive the quality education we do for the price tag it is. Who ever came up with the whole college is a right not a privilege is badly mistaken. It is a privilege. In my opinion if you can't afford it, overcome adversity, make it happen, heck get a student loan, there are companies ready and willing to give them and it will more than pay for itself. In response to a real Alumnus, are you kidding me? Get rid of athletics do you realize how many donors we would lose in other areas of the university as well? Fresno State athletics is what makes Fresno State Great. Its part of what gives us prestige, and personally I am proud to call myself a bulldog because of it. I think that the students who feel so strongly about what is happening at Fresno State need to change their focus to those in Sacramento that is the only place that change to fix this can be made. This is beyond Fresno State and beyond Dr.Welty the power lies with our legislators. I am tired of hearing all this complaining about the increase in tuition and I think that it is being direct at the wrong people. Fire Welty his lousy $300,000 salary, free travel, let his state owned home go vacant and his vehicle stipend is not going to fix this budget deficit. I am a student who has paid for most of my college education on my own and you don’t see me complaining about the fee increase, yes it sucks but need I remind you WE ATTEND ON OF THE CHEAPEST INSTITUTIONS IN THE NATION! Our education is highly subsidized by the taxpayer. We should be fortunate to be able to receive the quality education we do for the price tag it is. Who ever came up with the whole college is a right not a privilege is badly mistaken. It is a privilege. In my opinion if you can’t afford it, overcome adversity, make it happen, heck get a student loan, there are companies ready and willing to give them and it will more than pay for itself. In response to a real Alumnus, are you kidding me? Get rid of athletics do you realize how many donors we would lose in other areas of the university as well? Fresno State athletics is what makes Fresno State Great. Its part of what gives us prestige, and personally I am proud to call myself a bulldog because of it. I think that the students who feel so strongly about what is happening at Fresno State need to change their focus to those in Sacramento that is the only place that change to fix this can be made. This is beyond Fresno State and beyond Dr.Welty the power lies with our legislators.

]]> By: Garth Clifton http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/11/04/17489/comment-page-1/#comment-40472 Garth Clifton Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:50:57 +0000 http://collegian.csufresno.edu/?p=17489#comment-40472 "AB 656 will not and cannot add on to what consumers pay at the pump. It’s written into the bill." How can the regulate the supply and demand of gasoline and oil. Sure they can prohibit oil companies from passing the tax along to consumers, but then Oil Companies will just drill elsewhere, reducing the supply of oil in California, reducing the tax revenue to the state, driving out the oil industry jobs, and yes, increasing the cost of gasoline as the supply of oil to the state is drastically cut. Common sense economics. The legislature cannot just decide to repeal the law of supply and demand. Get a grip. “AB 656 will not and cannot add on to what consumers pay at the pump. It’s written into the bill.”

How can the regulate the supply and demand of gasoline and oil.
Sure they can prohibit oil companies from passing the tax along to consumers, but then Oil Companies will just drill elsewhere, reducing the supply of oil in California, reducing the tax revenue to the state, driving out the oil industry jobs, and yes, increasing the cost of gasoline as the supply of oil to the state is drastically cut. Common sense economics.
The legislature cannot just decide to repeal the law of supply and demand. Get a grip.

]]> By: Garth Clifton http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/11/04/17489/comment-page-1/#comment-48546 Garth Clifton Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:50:00 +0000 http://collegian.csufresno.edu/?p=17489#comment-48546 "AB 656 will not and cannot add on to what consumers pay at the pump. It’s written into the bill." How can the regulate the supply and demand of gasoline and oil. Sure they can prohibit oil companies from passing the tax along to consumers, but then Oil Companies will just drill elsewhere, reducing the supply of oil in California, reducing the tax revenue to the state, driving out the oil industry jobs, and yes, increasing the cost of gasoline as the supply of oil to the state is drastically cut. Common sense economics. The legislature cannot just decide to repeal the law of supply and demand. Get a grip. “AB 656 will not and cannot add on to what consumers pay at the pump. It’s written into the bill.”

How can the regulate the supply and demand of gasoline and oil.
Sure they can prohibit oil companies from passing the tax along to consumers, but then Oil Companies will just drill elsewhere, reducing the supply of oil in California, reducing the tax revenue to the state, driving out the oil industry jobs, and yes, increasing the cost of gasoline as the supply of oil to the state is drastically cut. Common sense economics.
The legislature cannot just decide to repeal the law of supply and demand. Get a grip.

]]> By: Garth Clifton http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/11/04/17489/comment-page-1/#comment-48547 Garth Clifton Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:50:00 +0000 http://collegian.csufresno.edu/?p=17489#comment-48547 "AB 656 will not and cannot add on to what consumers pay at the pump. It’s written into the bill." How can the regulate the supply and demand of gasoline and oil. Sure they can prohibit oil companies from passing the tax along to consumers, but then Oil Companies will just drill elsewhere, reducing the supply of oil in California, reducing the tax revenue to the state, driving out the oil industry jobs, and yes, increasing the cost of gasoline as the supply of oil to the state is drastically cut. Common sense economics. The legislature cannot just decide to repeal the law of supply and demand. Get a grip. “AB 656 will not and cannot add on to what consumers pay at the pump. It’s written into the bill.”

How can the regulate the supply and demand of gasoline and oil.
Sure they can prohibit oil companies from passing the tax along to consumers, but then Oil Companies will just drill elsewhere, reducing the supply of oil in California, reducing the tax revenue to the state, driving out the oil industry jobs, and yes, increasing the cost of gasoline as the supply of oil to the state is drastically cut. Common sense economics.
The legislature cannot just decide to repeal the law of supply and demand. Get a grip.

]]> By: A Real Alumnus http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/11/04/17489/comment-page-1/#comment-40433 A Real Alumnus Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:10:48 +0000 http://collegian.csufresno.edu/?p=17489#comment-40433 If we eliminated the $5+ million of State support dollars that goes to the Athletics Department, 500 more course sections and 150 more faculty could be restored. The intercollegiate sports program is a luxury that should be paid for by the community (they benefit the most from it, not the students). Academics first, play time second!! If we eliminated the $5+ million of State support dollars that goes to the Athletics Department, 500 more course sections and 150 more faculty could be restored. The intercollegiate sports program is a luxury that should be paid for by the community (they benefit the most from it, not the students). Academics first, play time second!!

]]> By: A Real Alumnus http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/11/04/17489/comment-page-1/#comment-48544 A Real Alumnus Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:10:00 +0000 http://collegian.csufresno.edu/?p=17489#comment-48544 If we eliminated the $5+ million of State support dollars that goes to the Athletics Department, 500 more course sections and 150 more faculty could be restored. The intercollegiate sports program is a luxury that should be paid for by the community (they benefit the most from it, not the students). Academics first, play time second!! If we eliminated the $5+ million of State support dollars that goes to the Athletics Department, 500 more course sections and 150 more faculty could be restored. The intercollegiate sports program is a luxury that should be paid for by the community (they benefit the most from it, not the students). Academics first, play time second!!

]]> By: A Real Alumnus http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/11/04/17489/comment-page-1/#comment-48545 A Real Alumnus Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:10:00 +0000 http://collegian.csufresno.edu/?p=17489#comment-48545 If we eliminated the $5+ million of State support dollars that goes to the Athletics Department, 500 more course sections and 150 more faculty could be restored. The intercollegiate sports program is a luxury that should be paid for by the community (they benefit the most from it, not the students). Academics first, play time second!! If we eliminated the $5+ million of State support dollars that goes to the Athletics Department, 500 more course sections and 150 more faculty could be restored. The intercollegiate sports program is a luxury that should be paid for by the community (they benefit the most from it, not the students). Academics first, play time second!!

]]> By: Matt http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/11/04/17489/comment-page-1/#comment-40420 Matt Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:15:07 +0000 http://collegian.csufresno.edu/?p=17489#comment-40420 So, according to your logic, a bill that taxes ca residents 100% of their income to fund higher education also wouldn't be pathetic? I think you need to stop buying into liberal propoganda: college isn't a right, and Fresno state tuition is the lowest in the country. There is no corporate conspiracy here, but maybe if the university conducted itself like a corporation we wouldn't be in this mess. So, according to your logic, a bill that taxes ca residents 100% of their income to fund higher education also wouldn’t be pathetic? I think you need to stop buying into liberal propoganda: college isn’t a right, and Fresno state tuition is the lowest in the country. There is no corporate conspiracy here, but maybe if the university conducted itself like a corporation we wouldn’t be in this mess.

]]> By: Matt http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/11/04/17489/comment-page-1/#comment-48542 Matt Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:15:00 +0000 http://collegian.csufresno.edu/?p=17489#comment-48542 So, according to your logic, a bill that taxes ca residents 100% of their income to fund higher education also wouldn't be pathetic? I think you need to stop buying into liberal propoganda: college isn't a right, and Fresno state tuition is the lowest in the country. There is no corporate conspiracy here, but maybe if the university conducted itself like a corporation we wouldn't be in this mess. So, according to your logic, a bill that taxes ca residents 100% of their income to fund higher education also wouldn’t be pathetic? I think you need to stop buying into liberal propoganda: college isn’t a right, and Fresno state tuition is the lowest in the country. There is no corporate conspiracy here, but maybe if the university conducted itself like a corporation we wouldn’t be in this mess.

]]> By: Matt http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/11/04/17489/comment-page-1/#comment-48543 Matt Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:15:00 +0000 http://collegian.csufresno.edu/?p=17489#comment-48543 So, according to your logic, a bill that taxes ca residents 100% of their income to fund higher education also wouldn't be pathetic? I think you need to stop buying into liberal propoganda: college isn't a right, and Fresno state tuition is the lowest in the country. There is no corporate conspiracy here, but maybe if the university conducted itself like a corporation we wouldn't be in this mess. So, according to your logic, a bill that taxes ca residents 100% of their income to fund higher education also wouldn’t be pathetic? I think you need to stop buying into liberal propoganda: college isn’t a right, and Fresno state tuition is the lowest in the country. There is no corporate conspiracy here, but maybe if the university conducted itself like a corporation we wouldn’t be in this mess.

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