“I only worry that if those businessmen, alumni, and charitable community members pull their funding, the result will be a closure of the institution, not an adjustment in policy. At this time at least, it is their money to spend as they will, and I’d rather it come into the university supporting extra curricular activities that only better the educational experience, so the university doesn’t have to, than not come in at all”

WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH YOUR THINKING….you got some kind of crystal ball or something to look into the future? You cannot tell the future, you do not know for sure what will happen and if the university will shut down. You dont know if people will pull thier funding and if they do , then the university doesnt need them. Let them give htier corruptable funding elsewhere. That is pure fear that someone has taught you and your so naive for beliving it. That is the problem, too many people making decisions or believin what someone tells them.

“I only worry that if those businessmen, alumni, and charitable community members pull their funding, the result will be a closure of the institution, not an adjustment in policy. At this time at least, it is their money to spend as they will, and I’d rather it come into the university supporting extra curricular activities that only better the educational experience, so the university doesn’t have to, than not come in at all”

WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH YOUR THINKING….you got some kind of crystal ball or something to look into the future? You cannot tell the future, you do not know for sure what will happen and if the university will shut down. You dont know if people will pull thier funding and if they do , then the university doesnt need them. Let them give htier corruptable funding elsewhere. That is pure fear that someone has taught you and your so naive for beliving it. That is the problem, too many people making decisions or believin what someone tells them.

Intercollegiate athletics is a money loser for 99% of these programs. The Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics just issued a study surveying the FBS schools and their presidents. An overwhelming majority of the presidents say athletic programs are UNSUSTAINABLE financially. This is true here at Fresno State. Our program is unsustainable.

As for donors, I support opening the books of the auxiliaries. I doubt many people are award Ag One lost over $1 million in an investment it made in a “peaker” power plant several years ago.

Intercollegiate athletics is a money loser for 99% of these programs. The Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics just issued a study surveying the FBS schools and their presidents. An overwhelming majority of the presidents say athletic programs are UNSUSTAINABLE financially. This is true here at Fresno State. Our program is unsustainable.

As for donors, I support opening the books of the auxiliaries. I doubt many people are award Ag One lost over $1 million in an investment it made in a “peaker” power plant several years ago.

I apologize for misunderstanding your original post. In answer to your question, yes, I will be graduating on time (assuming the university stays open), and am hoping to also complete 2-3 minors.And I’ll be honest and say I’m able to come to the university as a result of scholarship (that I earned though my academic success and community involvement in high school), some help from my parents, and money I make each summer and during the year.

I feel you are misunderstanding me though. I am personally upset when fellow classmates in upper division classes are unable to write at even a basic collegiate level. My education is compromised when teachers have to spend 2 weeks of class going over procedure on how to write an essay. When I speak on students graduating on time, I refer to those students who I’ve met that receive complete financial aid from the government, or their parents pay for all of their expenses, and don’t work, and still only can handle 12 or less units a semester, as well as the people who fall close to that description. Some people, regardless of their origins, background, or political belief, just aren’t ready for collegiate level education. And the solution to that shouldn’t be lowering the standards.

They way I see it, it is the difference between playing soccer as a 6 year old, and soccer professionally. When you are 6, everyone plays who signs up, and should you lose or win, everyone gets a participation trophy. But when you are on a professional team, only the serious athletes perform well, and are able to sustain. You try to get the best, and keep the best. If you don’t know how to play the game, you won’t be any help to the team, and you will not be able to perform well personally.

This should be the same with college. If 4-year level institutions (I understand that life happens and people take less time and more time, Earlier I referred to the people who continue to waste their, and the states money, in an institution that doesn’t fit them. There is nothing wrong with pursuing vocational or trade schools, apprenticeships {although this model is very uncommon now}, or alternative education if they aren’t able to play this game) were able to orient themselves around students who are able to play the game, there would be a higher quality of education because it is focusing on the material, the institution would have higher merritt, and those graduates will have better opportunities in the future. I’m saying that it is unthinkable that students are unable to write, and should take time before entering the university to learn those skills (community colleges, etc.).

Your comparison to gay marriage is interesting, but EDUCATION should be the primary focus of the state. Personally, I’d rather do away with Marriage as a state institution because it is a religious institution, and religious matters should be less a concern of the state, and more a concern with the individual. Marriage is a social issue, and I’ll let the Social Policy Makers worry about the extent of separation or church and state in this matter, but that debate is out of the scope of this discourse. My concern is education, which to me is the most important institution our government handles. And like I said above, we need to do our best to make sure our legislators know that Education is not an area that should be sacrificed in these hard economic times. Vote to support Education, vote in politicians who support education, and make sure it is an education worth fighting for.

Smith,

I only worry that if those businessmen, alumni, and charitable community members pull their funding, the result will be a closure of the institution, not an adjustment in policy. At this time at least, it is their money to spend as they will, and I’d rather it come into the university supporting extra curricular activities that only better the educational experience, so the university doesn’t have to, than not come in at all.

But like I said, that is my worry. And when I’m older, I’d like to be able to donate (should I be in such a position) to things privately or publicly as I choose, because I would want to be able to give to the charities or causes I feel are important, without someone knocking on my door everyday trying to squeeze more out of me. And I’d imagine that the people giving to the university might also enjoy that privacy.

I apologize for misunderstanding your original post. In answer to your question, yes, I will be graduating on time (assuming the university stays open), and am hoping to also complete 2-3 minors.And I’ll be honest and say I’m able to come to the university as a result of scholarship (that I earned though my academic success and community involvement in high school), some help from my parents, and money I make each summer and during the year.

I feel you are misunderstanding me though. I am personally upset when fellow classmates in upper division classes are unable to write at even a basic collegiate level. My education is compromised when teachers have to spend 2 weeks of class going over procedure on how to write an essay. When I speak on students graduating on time, I refer to those students who I’ve met that receive complete financial aid from the government, or their parents pay for all of their expenses, and don’t work, and still only can handle 12 or less units a semester, as well as the people who fall close to that description. Some people, regardless of their origins, background, or political belief, just aren’t ready for collegiate level education. And the solution to that shouldn’t be lowering the standards.

They way I see it, it is the difference between playing soccer as a 6 year old, and soccer professionally. When you are 6, everyone plays who signs up, and should you lose or win, everyone gets a participation trophy. But when you are on a professional team, only the serious athletes perform well, and are able to sustain. You try to get the best, and keep the best. If you don’t know how to play the game, you won’t be any help to the team, and you will not be able to perform well personally.

This should be the same with college. If 4-year level institutions (I understand that life happens and people take less time and more time, Earlier I referred to the people who continue to waste their, and the states money, in an institution that doesn’t fit them. There is nothing wrong with pursuing vocational or trade schools, apprenticeships {although this model is very uncommon now}, or alternative education if they aren’t able to play this game) were able to orient themselves around students who are able to play the game, there would be a higher quality of education because it is focusing on the material, the institution would have higher merritt, and those graduates will have better opportunities in the future. I’m saying that it is unthinkable that students are unable to write, and should take time before entering the university to learn those skills (community colleges, etc.).

Your comparison to gay marriage is interesting, but EDUCATION should be the primary focus of the state. Personally, I’d rather do away with Marriage as a state institution because it is a religious institution, and religious matters should be less a concern of the state, and more a concern with the individual. Marriage is a social issue, and I’ll let the Social Policy Makers worry about the extent of separation or church and state in this matter, but that debate is out of the scope of this discourse. My concern is education, which to me is the most important institution our government handles. And like I said above, we need to do our best to make sure our legislators know that Education is not an area that should be sacrificed in these hard economic times. Vote to support Education, vote in politicians who support education, and make sure it is an education worth fighting for.

Smith,

I only worry that if those businessmen, alumni, and charitable community members pull their funding, the result will be a closure of the institution, not an adjustment in policy. At this time at least, it is their money to spend as they will, and I’d rather it come into the university supporting extra curricular activities that only better the educational experience, so the university doesn’t have to, than not come in at all.

But like I said, that is my worry. And when I’m older, I’d like to be able to donate (should I be in such a position) to things privately or publicly as I choose, because I would want to be able to give to the charities or causes I feel are important, without someone knocking on my door everyday trying to squeeze more out of me. And I’d imagine that the people giving to the university might also enjoy that privacy.

I didnt take a picture with the ASI because first i didnt really know who they were standing in the Free Speech asking me to take a picture, second, the same day there was a much huger crowd doing exactly what i thought was more for studens for getting the Legislature attention. And also your prejudice shows on how you feel that people should be cut out from the CSU system by saying people of low performance should be cut and it makes the degree less valuable. That is called prejudice and also probably classism, or racism to an extent.

FOR EXAMPLE MR CODY MADSEN: that is like me taking a group of people, GAY people for example, and saying they should not be allowed to have gay marriage rights (which i do support this is just an example) and i say that gays cannot have access to marraige rights becaue they will devalue the worth of a marriage because it should be only between a man and a woman and it is taking them too long in “time” terms to figure out wich way they want to swing and eventually they can only access the marriage when they finally realise they have to swing the right way. Its like saying, Unfortunately there are far too many GAY people who simply cannot perform at a Marriage Level (Collegiate Level on your terms), and should reevaluate their life goals and plans. Because when GAY people get married it weakens the strength of the family and the marriage. And i use that to justify GAYS to stay out of the realm of marriage. Is this right MR MADSEN? Should something of that extent be allowed? cause that is how you are thinking.