WEB-SPE@K: What’s your walkout story?
Did you participate in the walkout? If you did, what motivated you to take action? Tell us your walkout story.
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
I am sure whoever made this thought that walking out and protesting was a good idea!
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
I am sure whoever made this thought that walking out and protesting was a good idea!
I don’t’ understand why rude and inappropriate comments have to be made, when students are trying to make a difference for education? I don’t understand why comments about race have to come into play. Would it have mattered if it was non-Chicanos rallying and organizing for the event? Who cares what ethnicity the students who organized the event were!!! The matter of the fact is, sooner or later, education will be only accessible to those in middle and upper social-economic standings. The right vs. privilege issue in regards to education can swing either left or right, it all depends on how you see it. I just don’t believe you should trash talk.
I don’t’ understand why rude and inappropriate comments have to be made, when students are trying to make a difference for education? I don’t understand why comments about race have to come into play. Would it have mattered if it was non-Chicanos rallying and organizing for the event? Who cares what ethnicity the students who organized the event were!!! The matter of the fact is, sooner or later, education will be only accessible to those in middle and upper social-economic standings. The right vs. privilege issue in regards to education can swing either left or right, it all depends on how you see it. I just don’t believe you should trash talk.
Mary B.,
Education is not a right, it is a privilege. To even try to suggest otherwise is an embarrassment.
How can anyone argue that education is only accessible to middle and upper social economic level students? The cost to attend Fresno State is only $5000 for an entire year. An entire year!!!!!!!! Who can’t afford that? Are you kidding me? I could see where someone attending a private school like USC, Santa Clara, USD, Pepperdine might be priced out of attending college there due to having to pay $40,000+ for one year. You got that????? $40,000+ for one single year. You can graduate from Fresno State for $25,000 dollars. Students here have no right to complain. It is dirt cheap to attend school here. Unless you live in a dumpster, there is no reason to complain about the cost of tuition here.
Some people just don’t get it. Quit complaining and making a fool out of yourselves. It is embarrassing.
Stop saying F this and F that all the time at the rallies too through the megaphones. That lack of class was disgusting to hear from inside the library. Totally revolting.
Mary B.,
Education is not a right, it is a privilege. To even try to suggest otherwise is an embarrassment.
How can anyone argue that education is only accessible to middle and upper social economic level students? The cost to attend Fresno State is only $5000 for an entire year. An entire year!!!!!!!! Who can’t afford that? Are you kidding me? I could see where someone attending a private school like USC, Santa Clara, USD, Pepperdine might be priced out of attending college there due to having to pay $40,000+ for one year. You got that????? $40,000+ for one single year. You can graduate from Fresno State for $25,000 dollars. Students here have no right to complain. It is dirt cheap to attend school here. Unless you live in a dumpster, there is no reason to complain about the cost of tuition here.
Some people just don’t get it. Quit complaining and making a fool out of yourselves. It is embarrassing.
Stop saying F this and F that all the time at the rallies too through the megaphones. That lack of class was disgusting to hear from inside the library. Totally revolting.
BTW deleting comments doesn’t solve anything. Censorship doesn’t get the discussion moving anywhere.
BTW deleting comments doesn’t solve anything. Censorship doesn’t get the discussion moving anywhere.
Jennifer, there was a diverse group of students protesting in the crowd yesterday. If you actually attended the event you would’ve seen that. Also, there is a purpose in deleting comments and it is not censorship. Please stop trying to get sympathy for your cause by pretending you and others are being shut down and that your previous comments were acceptable in any way.
Jennifer, there was a diverse group of students protesting in the crowd yesterday. If you actually attended the event you would’ve seen that. Also, there is a purpose in deleting comments and it is not censorship. Please stop trying to get sympathy for your cause by pretending you and others are being shut down and that your previous comments were acceptable in any way.
why did the collegian use a golf photo to represent the student walkout? Are those Tiger’s Adidas shoes?
why did the collegian use a golf photo to represent the student walkout? Are those Tiger’s Adidas shoes?
I have more respect for the taxpayers of the great state of California (in their footing most of the cost of our university education) than to partake in a something as trivial as a walkout.
I have more respect for the taxpayers of the great state of California (in their footing most of the cost of our university education) than to partake in a something as trivial as a walkout.
Nick, the phrase general welfare refers to the welfare of the Union, and the welfare of the States. It doesn’t mean welfare in the colloquial sense of taxation and redistribution for individuals.
Welfare as we know it today was invented in the wave of progressivism that swept the United States in the 20s and came to bear fruit in the 30s. Things like FDR’s Works Progress Administration were the first modern welfare. The welfare state came to its full maturity in the 60s with LBJ’s Great Society push. Before these movements there was no national welfare, college stipends, or anything that we associate with welfare. The entire concept of wealth redistribution was foreign and opposed to the liberal mindset of America before this time.
I also find it very sad that the few liberals left in the United States, we know them as “Libertarians” are rather a fringe group. The modern left is not liberal, though it assumes that title. The modern right is also not liberal. Both major parties have at least 40 years, if not more, heavily invested in the great social works of fascism.
Fascism though is not equivalent to Jew hating Nazis. Fascism is simply the secular religion of the state. Benito Mussolini stated it best when he proclaimed “Everything for the State, nothing outside of the State.” Fascism was born in France during their revolution, but that was of a different breed. Taking social engineering ideas from England and the Weimar Republic, the United States became the world’s first modern-fascist regime during WWI under Woodrow Wilson. Thankfully, we went back to being a republic, but the poison took root.
What I’m trying to get at is that we have all drank the poison Kool-aid of statism/fascism. We all want more progress, more great works, more enforced material equality. We want high speed rail. We want more regulation of all modes of transportation. We already have, and have had for a long time, complete government monopoly on children through the public school system. We already have an unholy alliance of vested business interest and the all seeing Federal Government. (And I mean only the absolute largest businesses, one needs multi-billions to in part effect the direction of this massive society)
I’m shouting STOP! ENOUGH! The answer isn’t MORE government schooling, but NO government schooling, at least not nationally. All governments certainly must cease their monopoly on what is and isn’t kosher. I shout for liberality, for freedom.
And for that I certainly don’t want yet another generation forced into government schools to learn only the lessons big government wants the populous to learn, and in the process, learning absolute dependence on the state.
That my friends is slavery under a pretty name.
-Sean
Nick, the phrase general welfare refers to the welfare of the Union, and the welfare of the States. It doesn’t mean welfare in the colloquial sense of taxation and redistribution for individuals.
Welfare as we know it today was invented in the wave of progressivism that swept the United States in the 20s and came to bear fruit in the 30s. Things like FDR’s Works Progress Administration were the first modern welfare. The welfare state came to its full maturity in the 60s with LBJ’s Great Society push. Before these movements there was no national welfare, college stipends, or anything that we associate with welfare. The entire concept of wealth redistribution was foreign and opposed to the liberal mindset of America before this time.
I also find it very sad that the few liberals left in the United States, we know them as “Libertarians” are rather a fringe group. The modern left is not liberal, though it assumes that title. The modern right is also not liberal. Both major parties have at least 40 years, if not more, heavily invested in the great social works of fascism.
Fascism though is not equivalent to Jew hating Nazis. Fascism is simply the secular religion of the state. Benito Mussolini stated it best when he proclaimed “Everything for the State, nothing outside of the State.” Fascism was born in France during their revolution, but that was of a different breed. Taking social engineering ideas from England and the Weimar Republic, the United States became the world’s first modern-fascist regime during WWI under Woodrow Wilson. Thankfully, we went back to being a republic, but the poison took root.
What I’m trying to get at is that we have all drank the poison Kool-aid of statism/fascism. We all want more progress, more great works, more enforced material equality. We want high speed rail. We want more regulation of all modes of transportation. We already have, and have had for a long time, complete government monopoly on children through the public school system. We already have an unholy alliance of vested business interest and the all seeing Federal Government. (And I mean only the absolute largest businesses, one needs multi-billions to in part effect the direction of this massive society)
I’m shouting STOP! ENOUGH! The answer isn’t MORE government schooling, but NO government schooling, at least not nationally. All governments certainly must cease their monopoly on what is and isn’t kosher. I shout for liberality, for freedom.
And for that I certainly don’t want yet another generation forced into government schools to learn only the lessons big government wants the populous to learn, and in the process, learning absolute dependence on the state.
That my friends is slavery under a pretty name.
-Sean
Ashley,
Only $5000 dollars a year!? $25,000 to graduate from Fresno States!!!? Really? As a student i can’t pretend to believe that i can go to school for a whole year for only $5000 unless that includes my housing (because i pay rent every month), food, bills, gas, BOOKS, parking permit, and everything else we must pay to survive for a year…. after adding all of that i assure you a semester in college is way more than just tuition or $5000. I have worked up to three jobs to afford school while going to school full time, without any financial aid.
I’m a senior and at this point i am not sure if i will be able to come up with tuition for next semester to graduate, i no longer have a job.
$5000 is a lot! for you average working student… when you don’t have money, any amount of money is A LOT.
Ashley,
Only $5000 dollars a year!? $25,000 to graduate from Fresno States!!!? Really? As a student i can’t pretend to believe that i can go to school for a whole year for only $5000 unless that includes my housing (because i pay rent every month), food, bills, gas, BOOKS, parking permit, and everything else we must pay to survive for a year…. after adding all of that i assure you a semester in college is way more than just tuition or $5000. I have worked up to three jobs to afford school while going to school full time, without any financial aid.
I’m a senior and at this point i am not sure if i will be able to come up with tuition for next semester to graduate, i no longer have a job.
$5000 is a lot! for you average working student… when you don’t have money, any amount of money is A LOT.
Noemi what you said, and many others have said makes me think of some economic advice.
Since the problem really is the US Dollar just doesn’t go far enough. What I’m going to do when I earn an appreciable income is get away from the political funny money that ironically has “In God we Trust” stamped on it.
I’m storing my wealth in gold, silver, platinum, and diamonds. Historically those precious commodities never suffer inflation. When gold prices rise, I’m not getting richer, but everyone else is getting poorer.
The Federal Reserve is a political weapon to keep us poor and dependent.
I’m tired of their damned game.
Now will this solve your money shortage now? NO! You cannot get richer just storing your wealth in precious metal. However, in the years to come when gasoline costs $12.34 a gallon and a meager home cooked meal is about $15 a person, you’ll still be as rich (or poor) as you were when you purchased the gold/silver/whatever.
We can exit this damned inflationary policy debacle.
Hope this helps everyone in the future.
-Sean
Noemi what you said, and many others have said makes me think of some economic advice.
Since the problem really is the US Dollar just doesn’t go far enough. What I’m going to do when I earn an appreciable income is get away from the political funny money that ironically has “In God we Trust” stamped on it.
I’m storing my wealth in gold, silver, platinum, and diamonds. Historically those precious commodities never suffer inflation. When gold prices rise, I’m not getting richer, but everyone else is getting poorer.
The Federal Reserve is a political weapon to keep us poor and dependent.
I’m tired of their damned game.
Now will this solve your money shortage now? NO! You cannot get richer just storing your wealth in precious metal. However, in the years to come when gasoline costs $12.34 a gallon and a meager home cooked meal is about $15 a person, you’ll still be as rich (or poor) as you were when you purchased the gold/silver/whatever.
We can exit this damned inflationary policy debacle.
Hope this helps everyone in the future.
-Sean
Does “Oblisk” have respect for the taxpaying students that participated in the walkout?
Does “Oblisk” have respect for the taxpaying students that participated in the walkout?
Only $5000 dollars a year!? $25,000 to graduate from Fresno States!!!? Really? As a student i can’t pretend to believe that i can go to school for a whole year for only $5000 unless that includes my housing (because i pay rent every month), food, bills, gas, BOOKS, parking permit, and everything else we must pay to survive for a year…. after adding all of that i assure you a semester in college is way more than just tuition or $5000. I have worked up to three jobs to afford school while going to school full time, without any financial aid.
I’m a senior and at this point i am not sure if i will be able to come up with tuition for next semester to graduate, i no longer have a job.
$5000 is a lot! for you average working student… when you don’t have money, any amount of money is A LOT
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Your cost to drive to class should be factored in as well? Ha! I may give you credit for adding the total of books and a dorm room, but get real—-nobody forces you to live 12 miles from the campus.
Only $5000 dollars a year!? $25,000 to graduate from Fresno States!!!? Really? As a student i can’t pretend to believe that i can go to school for a whole year for only $5000 unless that includes my housing (because i pay rent every month), food, bills, gas, BOOKS, parking permit, and everything else we must pay to survive for a year…. after adding all of that i assure you a semester in college is way more than just tuition or $5000. I have worked up to three jobs to afford school while going to school full time, without any financial aid.
I’m a senior and at this point i am not sure if i will be able to come up with tuition for next semester to graduate, i no longer have a job.
$5000 is a lot! for you average working student… when you don’t have money, any amount of money is A LOT
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Your cost to drive to class should be factored in as well? Ha! I may give you credit for adding the total of books and a dorm room, but get real—-nobody forces you to live 12 miles from the campus.
Well it seems like this argument has pitted the haves against the have-nots. Is free/very cheap schooling a right? No. Is it a privilege? Far from it. Compare the average academic requirements and costs of attending a CSU vs UC and one sees both ends of the spectrum. The current cost of tuition is just about right. If a $600-$800 rise in tuition is breaking your bank account then you may have bigger problems. However, we cannot expect a rise in tuition without some comparable rise in quality of service. At the very least, we should expect the same. Most of the frustration stems from a shortage of classes. That is simply unacceptable, especially for those of us in our senior year. So I ask those of you who demand free education to reconsider the logic behind that view. I also want the elitists to remember that we are all part of the same system – one that may cut the last class that you need to graduate, no matter how much money you have.
Well it seems like this argument has pitted the haves against the have-nots. Is free/very cheap schooling a right? No. Is it a privilege? Far from it. Compare the average academic requirements and costs of attending a CSU vs UC and one sees both ends of the spectrum. The current cost of tuition is just about right. If a $600-$800 rise in tuition is breaking your bank account then you may have bigger problems. However, we cannot expect a rise in tuition without some comparable rise in quality of service. At the very least, we should expect the same. Most of the frustration stems from a shortage of classes. That is simply unacceptable, especially for those of us in our senior year. So I ask those of you who demand free education to reconsider the logic behind that view. I also want the elitists to remember that we are all part of the same system – one that may cut the last class that you need to graduate, no matter how much money you have.
NO DREAM ACT!!!!
NO DREAM ACT!!!!
To those of you TARGETING people that organized and/or participated in the walkout, FDR would have called you and the economic state we’re in: the “grave dangers of ‘rightist reaction’ in this nation.” That reaction being one of NON-ACTION and succumbing to the privatizing of our PUBLIC university. He would have expressed of you all, as those who have “yielded to spirited fascism here at home.” So you may want to re-think and re-evaluate what you think and how you express yourself and the values of this nation
I assume that most you didn’t even know that if former president FDR would have lived a bit longer, WE THE PEOPLE of the United States would have a SECOND BILL OF RIGHTS, that guarantees us ALL the RIGHT TO A GOOD EDUCATION. so YES! EDUCATION IS A RIGHT NOT A PRIVILEDGE! and this is a real possibilty if we unite to demand it, we CAN change this. The system we’re in didn’t create itself, PEOPLE CREATED IT, which means PEOPLE CAN CHANGE IT TOO. But it will not change until we stand up and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
For you Sean, you are very wise. I too am against corporatism and want to “end government monopoly of education!” But we have to start somewhere and students’ mentality about de-institutionalizing education will not change until they actually SEE what this university is doing with OUR money. untill the BOOKS ARE OPEN. Fresno State is building all these projects like CAMPUS POINT, assisted living housing, LUXURY housing, and the strip MALL just like the SAVEMART CENTER at the expense of students/faculty/staff. But guess what? We will not be able to see all these profits until FRESNO STATE OPENS THE BOOKS! and Fresno State has been, is, and will continue building at the expense of us all until we DEMAND that this stops, until we DEMAND that they open up AUXILLARY’s books. Join us all November 3rd 12noon-2pm at the PEACE GARDEN, where President Welty has vowed to meet with us to negotiate our demands.
To those of you TARGETING people that organized and/or participated in the walkout, FDR would have called you and the economic state we’re in: the “grave dangers of ‘rightist reaction’ in this nation.†That reaction being one of NON-ACTION and succumbing to the privatizing of our PUBLIC university. He would have expressed of you all, as those who have “yielded to spirited fascism here at home.†So you may want to re-think and re-evaluate what you think and how you express yourself and the values of this nation
I assume that most you didn’t even know that if former president FDR would have lived a bit longer, WE THE PEOPLE of the United States would have a SECOND BILL OF RIGHTS, that guarantees us ALL the RIGHT TO A GOOD EDUCATION. so YES! EDUCATION IS A RIGHT NOT A PRIVILEDGE! and this is a real possibilty if we unite to demand it, we CAN change this. The system we’re in didn’t create itself, PEOPLE CREATED IT, which means PEOPLE CAN CHANGE IT TOO. But it will not change until we stand up and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
For you Sean, you are very wise. I too am against corporatism and want to “end government monopoly of education!†But we have to start somewhere and students’ mentality about de-institutionalizing education will not change until they actually SEE what this university is doing with OUR money. untill the BOOKS ARE OPEN. Fresno State is building all these projects like CAMPUS POINT, assisted living housing, LUXURY housing, and the strip MALL just like the SAVEMART CENTER at the expense of students/faculty/staff. But guess what? We will not be able to see all these profits until FRESNO STATE OPENS THE BOOKS! and Fresno State has been, is, and will continue building at the expense of us all until we DEMAND that this stops, until we DEMAND that they open up AUXILLARY’s books. Join us all November 3rd 12noon-2pm at the PEACE GARDEN, where President Welty has vowed to meet with us to negotiate our demands.
Well Hello to all the students that responded to this we’re not here to indulge in a fantasy world but in a political and economic reality. The University, has become a second-rate entity. The Universities financial deficit are at nightmare proportions. That is why it is necessary for all these cut and what they are currently doing which I believe is the right thing to do. Now in the days when fees where low and one could attend college at an affordable cost. This was when the University and the CSU education in California. What I mean by this is that with all these necessary cuts the CSU still maintains great accountability to the students. The taxpayers have to make sure cuts are necessary because it is their money at stake and they should agree to these cuts. The walkout was just I will continue to repeat just for many of those students that are afraid of their own behinds. It is still going to be certain groups that continue to disrupt the functioning. All, together, those students that participated in the walkout contribute to less than 3 percent of their financial needs to their education. People complain about the salary that the President and the administration is making but why should people complain is it their fault that they handle their business and those people at the walkout are penalizing them for being successful. The new law of evolution in academics seems to be survival of the unfittest. Well, in my book you either do it right or you get eliminated and that is why these cuts were necessary something that these people in the walkout don’t seem to understand. These activists should not believe that the administration are destroyers of high education. They should realize that the CSU is a liberator of these cuts which are necessary. The point that I am trying to make is that greed for a lack of a better word –is good
Greed is right ….Greed works….Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms greed for life for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of the world of academics. Also, greed you can read my words will not only save the university but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA.
Well Hello to all the students that responded to this we’re not here to indulge in a fantasy world but in a political and economic reality. The University, has become a second-rate entity. The Universities financial deficit are at nightmare proportions. That is why it is necessary for all these cut and what they are currently doing which I believe is the right thing to do. Now in the days when fees where low and one could attend college at an affordable cost. This was when the University and the CSU education in California. What I mean by this is that with all these necessary cuts the CSU still maintains great accountability to the students. The taxpayers have to make sure cuts are necessary because it is their money at stake and they should agree to these cuts. The walkout was just I will continue to repeat just for many of those students that are afraid of their own behinds. It is still going to be certain groups that continue to disrupt the functioning. All, together, those students that participated in the walkout contribute to less than 3 percent of their financial needs to their education. People complain about the salary that the President and the administration is making but why should people complain is it their fault that they handle their business and those people at the walkout are penalizing them for being successful. The new law of evolution in academics seems to be survival of the unfittest. Well, in my book you either do it right or you get eliminated and that is why these cuts were necessary something that these people in the walkout don’t seem to understand. These activists should not believe that the administration are destroyers of high education. They should realize that the CSU is a liberator of these cuts which are necessary. The point that I am trying to make is that greed for a lack of a better word –is good
Greed is right ….Greed works….Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms greed for life for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of the world of academics. Also, greed you can read my words will not only save the university but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA.