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		<title>By: chauncey williams</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/02/09/bulldog-athletics-in-the-red/comment-page-1/#comment-40335</link>
		<dc:creator>chauncey williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please!!!!!!! look at the longhorns football schedule for 2012 and see if Pat Hill can get Mac Brown to commit to a game or two. Please i want this cupcake occ eater to have to take on Pat Hill!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please!!!!!!! look at the longhorns football schedule for 2012 and see if Pat Hill can get Mac Brown to commit to a game or two. Please i want this cupcake occ eater to have to take on Pat Hill!</p>
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		<title>By: dw</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/02/09/bulldog-athletics-in-the-red/comment-page-1/#comment-35506</link>
		<dc:creator>dw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael J.--you&#039;re right. Cutting ticket prices might put butts in the seats. When you figure in tickets, concessions, etc., it costs a family of four over $100 on average to go to a Bulldog football game. I&#039;ve said for years (the boosters hate me passionately) that Bulldog athletics was pricing itself beyond the reach of the average Fresnan, even when times were good. Remember, this is a community where a $9 per hour job is considered great, due to the dominence of minimum wage service industry jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael J.&#8211;you&#8217;re right. Cutting ticket prices might put butts in the seats. When you figure in tickets, concessions, etc., it costs a family of four over $100 on average to go to a Bulldog football game. I&#8217;ve said for years (the boosters hate me passionately) that Bulldog athletics was pricing itself beyond the reach of the average Fresnan, even when times were good. Remember, this is a community where a $9 per hour job is considered great, due to the dominence of minimum wage service industry jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. Faux</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/02/09/bulldog-athletics-in-the-red/comment-page-1/#comment-35505</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael J. Faux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they could easily boost attendance in a bad economy by slashing ticket prices.  15 dollars for the cheapest men&#039;s hoops tickets?  It&#039;s not the GS Warriors---It&#039;s Bulldog WAC basketball.  5-8 $ would seem reasonable...............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they could easily boost attendance in a bad economy by slashing ticket prices.  15 dollars for the cheapest men&#8217;s hoops tickets?  It&#8217;s not the GS Warriors&#8212;It&#8217;s Bulldog WAC basketball.  5-8 $ would seem reasonable&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James Tayler</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/02/09/bulldog-athletics-in-the-red/comment-page-1/#comment-35504</link>
		<dc:creator>James Tayler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure we will be seeing alot more cuts on athletic program funding in the very near future.  Hopefully the economy will turn around soon so that game attendence will pick up some more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure we will be seeing alot more cuts on athletic program funding in the very near future.  Hopefully the economy will turn around soon so that game attendence will pick up some more.</p>
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		<title>By: dw</title>
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		<dc:creator>dw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some misinformation is floating around about wrestling being dropped....

Fresno State has eliminated numerous intercollegiate sports since the 1980s, primarily for financial reasons--the cost of trying to operate a bigtime football program. Title IX only entered the financial equation in 1993 (the University had ignored the law prior to that time).

When water polo was dropped in 1992, the athletic department (AD) said that, for financial reasons, sports that were competed in by one sex only would be dropped. Since there was no women&#039;s water polo, the men&#039;s team was eliminated. In line with that statement, when the AD ran into financial difficulties (again!) in 1995, the expectation was that wrestling would be dropped, as all other sports offered at the time had both men&#039;s and women&#039;s squads. Instead, men&#039;s swimming was dropped.

Talk around North Gym was that a well-heeled wrestling booster had pressured the AD not to drop the sport. When finances hit a reef again five years ago, again, the expectation was that wrestling (along with women&#039;s swimming--remember, no men&#039;s squad in that sport) would be dropped. Evidently, the same well-heeled booster prevailed on the AD not to drop wrestling. Instead, men&#039;s soccer, women&#039;s swimming and cross country were eliminated. Cross country survived because the coach was willing to work without pay.

The swimming and soccer supporters went out and raised enough money to keep both sports going one more year. However, the AD wanted the boosters to come up with a permanent source of cash (the AD would not have funded either sport); they couldn&#039;t, so the sports were placed on &quot;hiatrus.&quot; That last season, several of the women swimmers filed lawsuits against the AD following a chemical exposure incident at the North Gym pool. Those cases were quietly settled.

Then Thomas Boeh arrived. He looked at the finances (which were a train wreck) and decided a sport was gonna have to go. He chose wrestling. Reportedly, the team GPA was horrid and there were &quot;image problems&quot; out in the community. 

Now, some people will say, why not drop basketball. The academic and image issues of that program are well known. Bottom line is, if men&#039;s basketball is dropped, Fresno State is no longer a WAC member.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some misinformation is floating around about wrestling being dropped&#8230;.</p>
<p>Fresno State has eliminated numerous intercollegiate sports since the 1980s, primarily for financial reasons&#8211;the cost of trying to operate a bigtime football program. Title IX only entered the financial equation in 1993 (the University had ignored the law prior to that time).</p>
<p>When water polo was dropped in 1992, the athletic department (AD) said that, for financial reasons, sports that were competed in by one sex only would be dropped. Since there was no women&#8217;s water polo, the men&#8217;s team was eliminated. In line with that statement, when the AD ran into financial difficulties (again!) in 1995, the expectation was that wrestling would be dropped, as all other sports offered at the time had both men&#8217;s and women&#8217;s squads. Instead, men&#8217;s swimming was dropped.</p>
<p>Talk around North Gym was that a well-heeled wrestling booster had pressured the AD not to drop the sport. When finances hit a reef again five years ago, again, the expectation was that wrestling (along with women&#8217;s swimming&#8211;remember, no men&#8217;s squad in that sport) would be dropped. Evidently, the same well-heeled booster prevailed on the AD not to drop wrestling. Instead, men&#8217;s soccer, women&#8217;s swimming and cross country were eliminated. Cross country survived because the coach was willing to work without pay.</p>
<p>The swimming and soccer supporters went out and raised enough money to keep both sports going one more year. However, the AD wanted the boosters to come up with a permanent source of cash (the AD would not have funded either sport); they couldn&#8217;t, so the sports were placed on &#8220;hiatrus.&#8221; That last season, several of the women swimmers filed lawsuits against the AD following a chemical exposure incident at the North Gym pool. Those cases were quietly settled.</p>
<p>Then Thomas Boeh arrived. He looked at the finances (which were a train wreck) and decided a sport was gonna have to go. He chose wrestling. Reportedly, the team GPA was horrid and there were &#8220;image problems&#8221; out in the community. </p>
<p>Now, some people will say, why not drop basketball. The academic and image issues of that program are well known. Bottom line is, if men&#8217;s basketball is dropped, Fresno State is no longer a WAC member.</p>
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		<title>By: Cleveland Stever</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cleveland Stever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*injustice sorry</description>
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		<title>By: Cleveland Stever</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2009/02/09/bulldog-athletics-in-the-red/comment-page-1/#comment-35501</link>
		<dc:creator>Cleveland Stever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Title IX compliance will always doom a sports program.  When you have men&#039;s sports that generate revenue and have to balance them with women&#039;s sports that can&#039;t possibly match up, this is no surprise.  Football, basketball, and perhaps baseball should be taken out of the Title IX gender balance equation when looking at proportionality.  
should be---

(MEN&#039;S SPORTS (-HOOPS AND FOOTBALL) = % male students) + (WOMEN&#039;S SPORTS (-BASKETBALL)=%female students) = gender equality under Title IX

The fact that we have lost men&#039;s soccer and wrestling over the past five years in favor of women&#039;s lacrosse is probably the biggest injustive that has taken place at this school since the day Terry Pettis&#039; drug deal went sour and he blasted two poor souls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Title IX compliance will always doom a sports program.  When you have men&#8217;s sports that generate revenue and have to balance them with women&#8217;s sports that can&#8217;t possibly match up, this is no surprise.  Football, basketball, and perhaps baseball should be taken out of the Title IX gender balance equation when looking at proportionality.<br />
should be&#8212;</p>
<p>(MEN&#8217;S SPORTS (-HOOPS AND FOOTBALL) = % male students) + (WOMEN&#8217;S SPORTS (-BASKETBALL)=%female students) = gender equality under Title IX</p>
<p>The fact that we have lost men&#8217;s soccer and wrestling over the past five years in favor of women&#8217;s lacrosse is probably the biggest injustive that has taken place at this school since the day Terry Pettis&#8217; drug deal went sour and he blasted two poor souls.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did this article take up the ENTIRE front page?  Is this all we have for news?  How about some stories about the rest of the economy to balance it out?  I think most of us are a lot more concerned about that right now, than a dwindling sports program.  That deserved at least a little corner of the front page, don&#039;t ya think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did this article take up the ENTIRE front page?  Is this all we have for news?  How about some stories about the rest of the economy to balance it out?  I think most of us are a lot more concerned about that right now, than a dwindling sports program.  That deserved at least a little corner of the front page, don&#8217;t ya think?</p>
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