Comments on: Prop 8 proponents true threat to marriage

By: G. P.

G. P. — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 04:29:24 +0000

I am so glad Pro. 8 was brought about. It needs to be made mandatory everywhere in this country. I know of many people who will never view homosexuals as people deserving equal rights in marriage. Don’t give me any flack about the joke of the farce called a Civil Union. That’s just another “Politically Correct” term we can do without. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Seeing the people that supported Prop. 8 makes me proud to be an American. Just think if people still lived by the Bible verses in the Old Testament, stoning would most likely still be in effect. Read Leviticus 18:22-30 to see what God’s rules pertaining to homosexuality.

To those who don’t like the majority of people who do not support a gay lifestyle, go somewhere else, we need our core values back in this country.

By: Ahimoth

Ahimoth — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:11:09 +0000

As long as the state is involved (seperation of church and state), and there is one title available for straight unions, and a different title available for gay unions, then that is discrimination sanctioned at the state govenmental level. If I recall, most everyone thinks discrimination is wrong…

By: Glenn

Glenn — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:35:53 +0000

…or how about fertility tests, to make sure that the marriage is really about procreation?

By: Excited

Excited — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:13:53 +0000

Hahahah yes!

By: ryan

ryan — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:09:52 +0000

If people where truly concerened about the institue of marriage, they should put a proposition on the ballot that will BAN divorce. that is the one thing that is tearing about the fabric of america. It should not be about who can or can not get married but what happens once they do.

By: Pat Chris

Pat Chris — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:25:59 +0000

For all those people out there prepared to vote no on this proposition, I must encourage you to broaden your views on the issue and ask yourself if this proposition is not too restrictive. I am an individual full of love. I happen to love people, lots of people. What if I want to marry, three men, and six women? Why can’t I do that? I also happen to love my family members. Can’t I marry them as well, my brothers, sister, parents and cousins? I also really love animals; dogs, cats, goats, horses. I want to marry them, all of them, I love them.
Should not the great state of California give the same equal recognition to my choice and hopes for marriage, as traditional heterosexual marriage, or same sex marriage?

So let me ask you, my fellow proponents who are prepared to vote no on prop 8. Do any of my views make you uncomfortable? Would you have a problem with public schools teaching your children that polyandry, polygyny, marriage of man and beast and marriage to family members is normal and equal in the eyes of the state? If my comments make you uncomfortable, then you are to narrow minded, insensitive, and intolerant. Why must the definition of marriage in California be numerically, sexually and specie restrictive. Let me remind you, people like me love people, animals and lots of other things; and I want, no demand the right to marry all of them. I ask you, my fellow Californians who are prepared to vote no on proposition 8, to respond and support truly unrestricted marriage in California. Will you, my fellow ‘no on 8′ voters pledge to support those of us who want to marry beast, cousin and multiple persons?

By: No on Prop 8, Yes on Prop 2, Yes on Obama, No on California Dems

No on Prop 8, Yes on Prop 2, Yes on Obama, No on California Dems — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:09:05 +0000

Greling—–society isn’t allowed to have standards? Since the institution was created it has been the preferred means of raising children and advancing society. If a majority of your fellow citizens agree with that notion, you should settle with the compromise—-a perfectly acceptable civil union.

Don’t blast America because certain people vote a certain way. I think marriage equals one man and one woman. I’m still voting against Prop 8 because it is a senseless proposition.

I, for one, would never choose to live in a backwards place like Europe.

Consider that our standard of living is much attributed to our diversity. Norway always tops international lists of living standards and ranks tremendously low in its diversity quotient. Likewise, Iceland ranks high in quality of life. A shamefully white and anti-immigrant society.

People are banging down doors to get into the United States. The US takes in more people from more nations on an annual basis than any other country. Problems of the past are being overcome day in and day out. this country has come a long way. Can’t knock that.

And life is hard being a black man because many of your brothas and sistas are making life difficult for you. White folks and many average blacks can’t stand the wilding-out, pants around the knee, ebonics spewing, womanizing ways of some younger black Americans. I was at a basketball game the other day in Oakland and was embarassed for my generation. I

By: Greling Jackson

Greling Jackson — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 18:14:02 +0000

If Prop. 8 passes, I’m taking my gay money and leaving anti-gay America. I’ll move to Canada or some part of Europe. There are so many other places in the world that have higher standards of living than the U.S. and don’t have such ignorant, backward people with homophobia drooling all over their lips. Life is already hard in being a black man. If they continue to strip away at my civil rights, I’ll have no other choice but to leave. Others will follow me. The U.S. will be left in this financial crisis mess with far fewer creative people to pull them out of it and fewer tax dollars.

By: Charlie Mitchell

Charlie Mitchell — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:37:53 +0000

No, the true sillyness is a Christian who believes that Jesus would support something so filled with hate. All this Proposition would do is send a message of hatred to people across California. No rights will be lost because those will remain intact under the domestic partnership laws. Jesus would not support such a discriminatory act. The institution of marriage will not be harmed by homosexuals being able to be married, and publicly show the private commitment they have made to each other.

As a side note, this proposition will not stop teachers from talking about gay marriage in schools. It will not stop gay people from forming deep and lasting unions. It will not stop gay people from being gay. So stop and think about what Jesus would do. When you look at his ultimate message of love, acceptance and forgiveness, you will easily find the answer. Jesus would vote NO on Prop 8.

By: James Fairbanks

James Fairbanks — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:02:44 +0000

I am a Christian and believe in this policy, “hate the sin and love the sinner.” The Bible teaches so plainly that homosexuality is wrong and sinful. Therefore the thought that Christ would sanction homosexual marriages is utterly absurd. Didn’t Christ say, “not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven” (Matthew 7:21). Homosexuality is an adjective and behavior (Romans 1: 27, 29-32). The scriptures reject it as a noun. Marriage between man and woman has always been ordained of God. Yes, before you vote on this issue you should ask what Christ would do. Then you must ask yourself are you taking away people’s rights or are you doing what is right.

By: Robby

Robby — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:01:38 +0000

One more thing. Their is one other solution – besides accepting gay marriage – to the tragedies you sited in those young people’s lives. They need to be loved…not rejected. If my kids ever come to me and tell me their gay I will shower them with all the love I can. They will need it. I can’t say being gay is or is not a choice. I have never been there. But my choice and God’s commandment is to love.

Does loving gays have to include accepting committed gay relationships as “marriage” and not “civil unions”?

By: James Fairbanks

James Fairbanks — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:54:40 +0000

I am a Christian and believe in this policy, “hate the sin and love the sinner.” The Bible teaches so plainly that homosexuality is wrong and sinful. Therefore the thought that Christ would sanction homosexual marriages is utterly absurd. Didn’t Christ say, “not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven” (Matthew 7:21). Homosexuality is an adjective and behavior. The scriptures reject it as a noun. Marriage between man and woman has always been ordained of God. Yes, before you vote on this issue you should ask what Christ would do. Then you must ask yourself are you taking away people’s rights or are you doing what is right.

By: Robby

Robby — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:45:58 +0000

Wow. There is so much sillyness in this article I don’t know where to start. Let me just say this. If you are going to argue against prop 8 don’t use God or the Bible unless you know what you are talking about. It doesn’t work. Here is what Jesus has to say about marriage in his own words in Matthew 19:

“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’.

Would you like me to include all the verses on homosexual sex too?

Now if you believe the Bible is just one of many religious books, and it is a mixture of good and not-so-good ideas that we are to pick and choose from, that’s cool. But don’t think you are swaying any Christians with the “Jesus said to love everybody” thing so we should all approve of gay marriage. The Bible says a lot of things about love, marriage, morality, salvation, judgement, and on and on. Don’t be misleading by picking out what proves your point while neglecting the other parts that don’t.

I think we all should love and respect one another entirely regardless of our differences. But that does not include abandoning our values and the FULL TEACHING of our faith. I don’t care how others choose to live. It’s none of my business…but I will no longer sit on the sidelines while people agressively push their beliefs and agenda on society and my family.

If gays were simply asking for love and respect and to be treated with dignity I would be with you all the way. When you start telling me that “holy matrimony” has to include gay relationships or I am a bigot and the real threat to marriage you can count me out.

By: Scout

Scout — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:47:22 +0000

Hear Hear. Excellent read.