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		<title>By: jsv</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>curious: You dont see it because the teacher make sure the kids take them home and redo them. Duh. 

FYI. I am not ridiculing them i am simply making the point that after generations in america people tend to lose track of their cultural heritage (my point may have gotten lost in the way i wrote it). And in my opinion it was funny that they assumed they were decendant from cowboys, not germans, english, european, etc. BTW most of the parents make the dolls so they should have an idea of what their ancestral heritage is even if they are of many cultures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>curious: You dont see it because the teacher make sure the kids take them home and redo them. Duh. </p>
<p>FYI. I am not ridiculing them i am simply making the point that after generations in america people tend to lose track of their cultural heritage (my point may have gotten lost in the way i wrote it). And in my opinion it was funny that they assumed they were decendant from cowboys, not germans, english, european, etc. BTW most of the parents make the dolls so they should have an idea of what their ancestral heritage is even if they are of many cultures.</p>
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		<title>By: jsv</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>curious: You dont see it because the teacher make sure the kids take them home and redo them. Duh. 

FYI. I am not ridiculing them i am simply making the point that after generations in america people tend to lose track of their cultural heritage (my point may have gotten lost in the way i wrote it). And in my opinion it was funny that they assumed they were decendant from cowboys, not germans, english, european, etc. BTW most of the parents make the dolls so they should have an idea of what their ancestral heritage is even if they are of many cultures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>curious: You dont see it because the teacher make sure the kids take them home and redo them. Duh. </p>
<p>FYI. I am not ridiculing them i am simply making the point that after generations in america people tend to lose track of their cultural heritage (my point may have gotten lost in the way i wrote it). And in my opinion it was funny that they assumed they were decendant from cowboys, not germans, english, european, etc. BTW most of the parents make the dolls so they should have an idea of what their ancestral heritage is even if they are of many cultures.</p>
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		<title>By: curious</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great story Sandra! As a child of immigrants I can certainly relate to the pull of different cultural and family expectations. Yet, I do have to point out that while the form and starkness of the expectations and attitudes foisted upon children and young people can be particular to immigrants, the reality of those tensions is not. People young and old have and will continue to be beset by the expectations and demands of their parents, friends and the larger society, some or all of which may be at odds with one another. The realization that you so ably describe, that life is made up of choices and you are responsible for making them, is called growing up. Congratulations on having the maturity to face that reality and accept the challenge. Far too many people never do.

Quick response to jsv. As a parent of 3 children who have gone thru Clovis schools, I have not experienced what you describe, certainly not to the extent of the &quot;most white kids&quot; statement. Walking around classrooms, looking at the kids dolls, I have seen what you would expect; a plethora of cultures on display, even in Clovis. While there are some examples of kids (and parents) making dolls as you describe, I wouldn&#039;t be quite so quick to attribute it to cultural ignorance or the belief that they all descended from some mythical cowboy in a John Wayne movie. When you talk to the kids you find that their familes came from many different places making it difficult for them to identify with one culture or country. Perhaps we shouldn&#039;t be quite so quick to ridicule someone for identifying more with the American culture that helped bring the sum of their cultural heritages together rather than picking just one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great story Sandra! As a child of immigrants I can certainly relate to the pull of different cultural and family expectations. Yet, I do have to point out that while the form and starkness of the expectations and attitudes foisted upon children and young people can be particular to immigrants, the reality of those tensions is not. People young and old have and will continue to be beset by the expectations and demands of their parents, friends and the larger society, some or all of which may be at odds with one another. The realization that you so ably describe, that life is made up of choices and you are responsible for making them, is called growing up. Congratulations on having the maturity to face that reality and accept the challenge. Far too many people never do.</p>
<p>Quick response to jsv. As a parent of 3 children who have gone thru Clovis schools, I have not experienced what you describe, certainly not to the extent of the &#8220;most white kids&#8221; statement. Walking around classrooms, looking at the kids dolls, I have seen what you would expect; a plethora of cultures on display, even in Clovis. While there are some examples of kids (and parents) making dolls as you describe, I wouldn&#8217;t be quite so quick to attribute it to cultural ignorance or the belief that they all descended from some mythical cowboy in a John Wayne movie. When you talk to the kids you find that their familes came from many different places making it difficult for them to identify with one culture or country. Perhaps we shouldn&#8217;t be quite so quick to ridicule someone for identifying more with the American culture that helped bring the sum of their cultural heritages together rather than picking just one.</p>
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		<title>By: curious</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2008/10/01/a-new-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-45677</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great story Sandra! As a child of immigrants I can certainly relate to the pull of different cultural and family expectations. Yet, I do have to point out that while the form and starkness of the expectations and attitudes foisted upon children and young people can be particular to immigrants, the reality of those tensions is not. People young and old have and will continue to be beset by the expectations and demands of their parents, friends and the larger society, some or all of which may be at odds with one another. The realization that you so ably describe, that life is made up of choices and you are responsible for making them, is called growing up. Congratulations on having the maturity to face that reality and accept the challenge. Far too many people never do.

Quick response to jsv. As a parent of 3 children who have gone thru Clovis schools, I have not experienced what you describe, certainly not to the extent of the &quot;most white kids&quot; statement. Walking around classrooms, looking at the kids dolls, I have seen what you would expect; a plethora of cultures on display, even in Clovis. While there are some examples of kids (and parents) making dolls as you describe, I wouldn&#039;t be quite so quick to attribute it to cultural ignorance or the belief that they all descended from some mythical cowboy in a John Wayne movie. When you talk to the kids you find that their familes came from many different places making it difficult for them to identify with one culture or country. Perhaps we shouldn&#039;t be quite so quick to ridicule someone for identifying more with the American culture that helped bring the sum of their cultural heritages together rather than picking just one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great story Sandra! As a child of immigrants I can certainly relate to the pull of different cultural and family expectations. Yet, I do have to point out that while the form and starkness of the expectations and attitudes foisted upon children and young people can be particular to immigrants, the reality of those tensions is not. People young and old have and will continue to be beset by the expectations and demands of their parents, friends and the larger society, some or all of which may be at odds with one another. The realization that you so ably describe, that life is made up of choices and you are responsible for making them, is called growing up. Congratulations on having the maturity to face that reality and accept the challenge. Far too many people never do.</p>
<p>Quick response to jsv. As a parent of 3 children who have gone thru Clovis schools, I have not experienced what you describe, certainly not to the extent of the &#8220;most white kids&#8221; statement. Walking around classrooms, looking at the kids dolls, I have seen what you would expect; a plethora of cultures on display, even in Clovis. While there are some examples of kids (and parents) making dolls as you describe, I wouldn&#8217;t be quite so quick to attribute it to cultural ignorance or the belief that they all descended from some mythical cowboy in a John Wayne movie. When you talk to the kids you find that their familes came from many different places making it difficult for them to identify with one culture or country. Perhaps we shouldn&#8217;t be quite so quick to ridicule someone for identifying more with the American culture that helped bring the sum of their cultural heritages together rather than picking just one.</p>
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		<title>By: jsv</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good story that many immigrants of many backgrounds can relate to. 

You want to know what is funny. When I used to work at an elementary in Clovis Unified as a TA, we had a project about &quot;Where your family came from or decended from&quot; where you had to make a doll dress in your native country&#039;s clothes. Most of the white kids made cowboys, that made me laugh, whats worst is that many of the parents helped make the dolls. Afterwards the teacher sent home a letter explaining in detail that they needed to research their background and find out what country their family originated from. 

Sorry but just because your white american does not mean your not an immigrant. Unless your native american your family immigrated from somewhere. I just thought that was a funny story of how people lose sight of their family ancestry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good story that many immigrants of many backgrounds can relate to. </p>
<p>You want to know what is funny. When I used to work at an elementary in Clovis Unified as a TA, we had a project about &#8220;Where your family came from or decended from&#8221; where you had to make a doll dress in your native country&#8217;s clothes. Most of the white kids made cowboys, that made me laugh, whats worst is that many of the parents helped make the dolls. Afterwards the teacher sent home a letter explaining in detail that they needed to research their background and find out what country their family originated from. </p>
<p>Sorry but just because your white american does not mean your not an immigrant. Unless your native american your family immigrated from somewhere. I just thought that was a funny story of how people lose sight of their family ancestry.</p>
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		<title>By: jsv</title>
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		<description>Good story that many immigrants of many backgrounds can relate to. 

You want to know what is funny. When I used to work at an elementary in Clovis Unified as a TA, we had a project about &quot;Where your family came from or decended from&quot; where you had to make a doll dress in your native country&#039;s clothes. Most of the white kids made cowboys, that made me laugh, whats worst is that many of the parents helped make the dolls. Afterwards the teacher sent home a letter explaining in detail that they needed to research their background and find out what country their family originated from. 

Sorry but just because your white american does not mean your not an immigrant. Unless your native american your family immigrated from somewhere. I just thought that was a funny story of how people lose sight of their family ancestry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good story that many immigrants of many backgrounds can relate to. </p>
<p>You want to know what is funny. When I used to work at an elementary in Clovis Unified as a TA, we had a project about &#8220;Where your family came from or decended from&#8221; where you had to make a doll dress in your native country&#8217;s clothes. Most of the white kids made cowboys, that made me laugh, whats worst is that many of the parents helped make the dolls. Afterwards the teacher sent home a letter explaining in detail that they needed to research their background and find out what country their family originated from. </p>
<p>Sorry but just because your white american does not mean your not an immigrant. Unless your native american your family immigrated from somewhere. I just thought that was a funny story of how people lose sight of their family ancestry.</p>
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