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		<title>By: Jonathan Lane</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2008/04/07/sins-of-the-father/comment-page-1/#comment-29554</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 07:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word! SO CAL FOR LIFE!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Lane</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2008/04/07/sins-of-the-father/comment-page-1/#comment-44604</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 07:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word! SO CAL FOR LIFE!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Lane</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2008/04/07/sins-of-the-father/comment-page-1/#comment-44605</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 07:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word! SO CAL FOR LIFE!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Crist</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2008/04/07/sins-of-the-father/comment-page-1/#comment-29553</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Crist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 06:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My crack dealer always tells me, &quot;Brian...if you relieve a man&#039;s suffering, then you are a Christian, but if you ask why he suffers, then you are a communist.&quot;  Just last night when I was talking to him, I had to ask him, &quot;What does it make you if you penalize a man for circumstances beyond his control?&quot;  My dealer didn&#039;t have an answer for that  question, but if he would have taken his mind off his money for a minute, I suspect he would have said &quot;the product of good parenting.&quot;

Your reasoning is more &quot;question begging&quot; and less &quot;slippery slope.&quot;  I know that sort of thing has its appeal to some students, but damn it, you&#039;re a bulldog.

We, the student body of CSU, Fresno thank you for writing, collectively smoke a quarter-piece in your honor, and wish  that y&#039;all never find yourselves in circumstances beyond your control.

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My crack dealer always tells me, &#8220;Brian&#8230;if you relieve a man&#8217;s suffering, then you are a Christian, but if you ask why he suffers, then you are a communist.&#8221;  Just last night when I was talking to him, I had to ask him, &#8220;What does it make you if you penalize a man for circumstances beyond his control?&#8221;  My dealer didn&#8217;t have an answer for that  question, but if he would have taken his mind off his money for a minute, I suspect he would have said &#8220;the product of good parenting.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your reasoning is more &#8220;question begging&#8221; and less &#8220;slippery slope.&#8221;  I know that sort of thing has its appeal to some students, but damn it, you&#8217;re a bulldog.</p>
<p>We, the student body of CSU, Fresno thank you for writing, collectively smoke a quarter-piece in your honor, and wish  that y&#8217;all never find yourselves in circumstances beyond your control.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Crist</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2008/04/07/sins-of-the-father/comment-page-1/#comment-44602</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Crist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 06:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My crack dealer always tells me, &quot;Brian...if you relieve a man&#039;s suffering, then you are a Christian, but if you ask why he suffers, then you are a communist.&quot;  Just last night when I was talking to him, I had to ask him, &quot;What does it make you if you penalize a man for circumstances beyond his control?&quot;  My dealer didn&#039;t have an answer for that  question, but if he would have taken his mind off his money for a minute, I suspect he would have said &quot;the product of good parenting.&quot;

Your reasoning is more &quot;question begging&quot; and less &quot;slippery slope.&quot;  I know that sort of thing has its appeal to some students, but damn it, you&#039;re a bulldog.

We, the student body of CSU, Fresno thank you for writing, collectively smoke a quarter-piece in your honor, and wish  that y&#039;all never find yourselves in circumstances beyond your control.

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My crack dealer always tells me, &#8220;Brian&#8230;if you relieve a man&#8217;s suffering, then you are a Christian, but if you ask why he suffers, then you are a communist.&#8221;  Just last night when I was talking to him, I had to ask him, &#8220;What does it make you if you penalize a man for circumstances beyond his control?&#8221;  My dealer didn&#8217;t have an answer for that  question, but if he would have taken his mind off his money for a minute, I suspect he would have said &#8220;the product of good parenting.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your reasoning is more &#8220;question begging&#8221; and less &#8220;slippery slope.&#8221;  I know that sort of thing has its appeal to some students, but damn it, you&#8217;re a bulldog.</p>
<p>We, the student body of CSU, Fresno thank you for writing, collectively smoke a quarter-piece in your honor, and wish  that y&#8217;all never find yourselves in circumstances beyond your control.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Crist</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2008/04/07/sins-of-the-father/comment-page-1/#comment-44603</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Crist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 06:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My crack dealer always tells me, &quot;Brian...if you relieve a man&#039;s suffering, then you are a Christian, but if you ask why he suffers, then you are a communist.&quot;  Just last night when I was talking to him, I had to ask him, &quot;What does it make you if you penalize a man for circumstances beyond his control?&quot;  My dealer didn&#039;t have an answer for that  question, but if he would have taken his mind off his money for a minute, I suspect he would have said &quot;the product of good parenting.&quot;

Your reasoning is more &quot;question begging&quot; and less &quot;slippery slope.&quot;  I know that sort of thing has its appeal to some students, but damn it, you&#039;re a bulldog.

We, the student body of CSU, Fresno thank you for writing, collectively smoke a quarter-piece in your honor, and wish  that y&#039;all never find yourselves in circumstances beyond your control.

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My crack dealer always tells me, &#8220;Brian&#8230;if you relieve a man&#8217;s suffering, then you are a Christian, but if you ask why he suffers, then you are a communist.&#8221;  Just last night when I was talking to him, I had to ask him, &#8220;What does it make you if you penalize a man for circumstances beyond his control?&#8221;  My dealer didn&#8217;t have an answer for that  question, but if he would have taken his mind off his money for a minute, I suspect he would have said &#8220;the product of good parenting.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your reasoning is more &#8220;question begging&#8221; and less &#8220;slippery slope.&#8221;  I know that sort of thing has its appeal to some students, but damn it, you&#8217;re a bulldog.</p>
<p>We, the student body of CSU, Fresno thank you for writing, collectively smoke a quarter-piece in your honor, and wish  that y&#8217;all never find yourselves in circumstances beyond your control.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Crist</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2008/04/07/sins-of-the-father/comment-page-1/#comment-29550</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Crist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 01:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word!</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Crist</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2008/04/07/sins-of-the-father/comment-page-1/#comment-44600</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Crist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word!</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Crist</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2008/04/07/sins-of-the-father/comment-page-1/#comment-44601</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Crist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word!</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathon Lane</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2008/04/07/sins-of-the-father/comment-page-1/#comment-29525</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 07:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, thank you for your response and thank you for recognizing my privileged upbringing! Your sarcastic (yet appreciated) suggestion that grandparents and great-grandparents should pay for the juvenile&#039;s detention is &quot;spot on!&quot; What you suggest makes perfect sense! Thank you for agreeing. I know that a small population of the student body reads the paper however, its really rewarding to know that students actually follow suit with my very own position. 

Tolerance is very important...no doubt about it! I am very tolerant of the child who is young and makes poor decisions. I can say, with confidence, that I am completely intolerant of any parent who does not honor and provide for their children&#039;s well being. This is an act that is completely inexcusable! If some poor crack addict bares an illegitimate child, the same proper care for that child is expected, regardless of how irresponsible that parent might be.

Regardless of the dirty social circumstances that might exist in our own communities, we can not afford to sacrifice our standards. While it might be &quot;slippery slope&quot; reasoning, the second that we accept negligent parenting practices is the second that we are welcoming a new standard of parenting practice that supports complete absence and unlawful conduct. 

Thank you again for your response, the Collegian is truly appreciative of you interest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, thank you for your response and thank you for recognizing my privileged upbringing! Your sarcastic (yet appreciated) suggestion that grandparents and great-grandparents should pay for the juvenile&#8217;s detention is &#8220;spot on!&#8221; What you suggest makes perfect sense! Thank you for agreeing. I know that a small population of the student body reads the paper however, its really rewarding to know that students actually follow suit with my very own position. </p>
<p>Tolerance is very important&#8230;no doubt about it! I am very tolerant of the child who is young and makes poor decisions. I can say, with confidence, that I am completely intolerant of any parent who does not honor and provide for their children&#8217;s well being. This is an act that is completely inexcusable! If some poor crack addict bares an illegitimate child, the same proper care for that child is expected, regardless of how irresponsible that parent might be.</p>
<p>Regardless of the dirty social circumstances that might exist in our own communities, we can not afford to sacrifice our standards. While it might be &#8220;slippery slope&#8221; reasoning, the second that we accept negligent parenting practices is the second that we are welcoming a new standard of parenting practice that supports complete absence and unlawful conduct. </p>
<p>Thank you again for your response, the Collegian is truly appreciative of you interest!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon Lane</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2008/04/07/sins-of-the-father/comment-page-1/#comment-44598</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 07:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, thank you for your response and thank you for recognizing my privileged upbringing! Your sarcastic (yet appreciated) suggestion that grandparents and great-grandparents should pay for the juvenile&#039;s detention is &quot;spot on!&quot; What you suggest makes perfect sense! Thank you for agreeing. I know that a small population of the student body reads the paper however, its really rewarding to know that students actually follow suit with my very own position. 

Tolerance is very important...no doubt about it! I am very tolerant of the child who is young and makes poor decisions. I can say, with confidence, that I am completely intolerant of any parent who does not honor and provide for their children&#039;s well being. This is an act that is completely inexcusable! If some poor crack addict bares an illegitimate child, the same proper care for that child is expected, regardless of how irresponsible that parent might be.

Regardless of the dirty social circumstances that might exist in our own communities, we can not afford to sacrifice our standards. While it might be &quot;slippery slope&quot; reasoning, the second that we accept negligent parenting practices is the second that we are welcoming a new standard of parenting practice that supports complete absence and unlawful conduct. 

Thank you again for your response, the Collegian is truly appreciative of you interest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, thank you for your response and thank you for recognizing my privileged upbringing! Your sarcastic (yet appreciated) suggestion that grandparents and great-grandparents should pay for the juvenile&#8217;s detention is &#8220;spot on!&#8221; What you suggest makes perfect sense! Thank you for agreeing. I know that a small population of the student body reads the paper however, its really rewarding to know that students actually follow suit with my very own position. </p>
<p>Tolerance is very important&#8230;no doubt about it! I am very tolerant of the child who is young and makes poor decisions. I can say, with confidence, that I am completely intolerant of any parent who does not honor and provide for their children&#8217;s well being. This is an act that is completely inexcusable! If some poor crack addict bares an illegitimate child, the same proper care for that child is expected, regardless of how irresponsible that parent might be.</p>
<p>Regardless of the dirty social circumstances that might exist in our own communities, we can not afford to sacrifice our standards. While it might be &#8220;slippery slope&#8221; reasoning, the second that we accept negligent parenting practices is the second that we are welcoming a new standard of parenting practice that supports complete absence and unlawful conduct. </p>
<p>Thank you again for your response, the Collegian is truly appreciative of you interest!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon Lane</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2008/04/07/sins-of-the-father/comment-page-1/#comment-44599</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 07:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, thank you for your response and thank you for recognizing my privileged upbringing! Your sarcastic (yet appreciated) suggestion that grandparents and great-grandparents should pay for the juvenile&#039;s detention is &quot;spot on!&quot; What you suggest makes perfect sense! Thank you for agreeing. I know that a small population of the student body reads the paper however, its really rewarding to know that students actually follow suit with my very own position. 

Tolerance is very important...no doubt about it! I am very tolerant of the child who is young and makes poor decisions. I can say, with confidence, that I am completely intolerant of any parent who does not honor and provide for their children&#039;s well being. This is an act that is completely inexcusable! If some poor crack addict bares an illegitimate child, the same proper care for that child is expected, regardless of how irresponsible that parent might be.

Regardless of the dirty social circumstances that might exist in our own communities, we can not afford to sacrifice our standards. While it might be &quot;slippery slope&quot; reasoning, the second that we accept negligent parenting practices is the second that we are welcoming a new standard of parenting practice that supports complete absence and unlawful conduct. 

Thank you again for your response, the Collegian is truly appreciative of you interest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, thank you for your response and thank you for recognizing my privileged upbringing! Your sarcastic (yet appreciated) suggestion that grandparents and great-grandparents should pay for the juvenile&#8217;s detention is &#8220;spot on!&#8221; What you suggest makes perfect sense! Thank you for agreeing. I know that a small population of the student body reads the paper however, its really rewarding to know that students actually follow suit with my very own position. </p>
<p>Tolerance is very important&#8230;no doubt about it! I am very tolerant of the child who is young and makes poor decisions. I can say, with confidence, that I am completely intolerant of any parent who does not honor and provide for their children&#8217;s well being. This is an act that is completely inexcusable! If some poor crack addict bares an illegitimate child, the same proper care for that child is expected, regardless of how irresponsible that parent might be.</p>
<p>Regardless of the dirty social circumstances that might exist in our own communities, we can not afford to sacrifice our standards. While it might be &#8220;slippery slope&#8221; reasoning, the second that we accept negligent parenting practices is the second that we are welcoming a new standard of parenting practice that supports complete absence and unlawful conduct. </p>
<p>Thank you again for your response, the Collegian is truly appreciative of you interest!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Crist</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2008/04/07/sins-of-the-father/comment-page-1/#comment-29524</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Crist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 05:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s absolute crap Jon.  You should pay for the kids&#039; confinement. Ok, that&#039;s too simple, but it is consistent with your reasoning.  Also, since &quot;bad parenting&quot; is the cause of the problem, why not ask the grandparents of the offenders to pay too since they provided the bad parenting that provided the bad parenting...or maybe the offenders&#039; great grandparents.  You were the product of strong parenting?  By what measure?  Truly strong parenting necessarily includes instilling tolerance in children.  While you approach tolerance in overlooking the role of the authorities in creating the conditions that you claim to find a problem with, you are intolerant of those who didn&#039;t have the good fortune to be the products of &#039;strong parenting.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s absolute crap Jon.  You should pay for the kids&#8217; confinement. Ok, that&#8217;s too simple, but it is consistent with your reasoning.  Also, since &#8220;bad parenting&#8221; is the cause of the problem, why not ask the grandparents of the offenders to pay too since they provided the bad parenting that provided the bad parenting&#8230;or maybe the offenders&#8217; great grandparents.  You were the product of strong parenting?  By what measure?  Truly strong parenting necessarily includes instilling tolerance in children.  While you approach tolerance in overlooking the role of the authorities in creating the conditions that you claim to find a problem with, you are intolerant of those who didn&#8217;t have the good fortune to be the products of &#8216;strong parenting.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Crist</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2008/04/07/sins-of-the-father/comment-page-1/#comment-44596</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Crist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 05:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s absolute crap Jon.  You should pay for the kids&#039; confinement. Ok, that&#039;s too simple, but it is consistent with your reasoning.  Also, since &quot;bad parenting&quot; is the cause of the problem, why not ask the grandparents of the offenders to pay too since they provided the bad parenting that provided the bad parenting...or maybe the offenders&#039; great grandparents.  You were the product of strong parenting?  By what measure?  Truly strong parenting necessarily includes instilling tolerance in children.  While you approach tolerance in overlooking the role of the authorities in creating the conditions that you claim to find a problem with, you are intolerant of those who didn&#039;t have the good fortune to be the products of &#039;strong parenting.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s absolute crap Jon.  You should pay for the kids&#8217; confinement. Ok, that&#8217;s too simple, but it is consistent with your reasoning.  Also, since &#8220;bad parenting&#8221; is the cause of the problem, why not ask the grandparents of the offenders to pay too since they provided the bad parenting that provided the bad parenting&#8230;or maybe the offenders&#8217; great grandparents.  You were the product of strong parenting?  By what measure?  Truly strong parenting necessarily includes instilling tolerance in children.  While you approach tolerance in overlooking the role of the authorities in creating the conditions that you claim to find a problem with, you are intolerant of those who didn&#8217;t have the good fortune to be the products of &#8216;strong parenting.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Crist</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2008/04/07/sins-of-the-father/comment-page-1/#comment-44597</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Crist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 05:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s absolute crap Jon.  You should pay for the kids&#039; confinement. Ok, that&#039;s too simple, but it is consistent with your reasoning.  Also, since &quot;bad parenting&quot; is the cause of the problem, why not ask the grandparents of the offenders to pay too since they provided the bad parenting that provided the bad parenting...or maybe the offenders&#039; great grandparents.  You were the product of strong parenting?  By what measure?  Truly strong parenting necessarily includes instilling tolerance in children.  While you approach tolerance in overlooking the role of the authorities in creating the conditions that you claim to find a problem with, you are intolerant of those who didn&#039;t have the good fortune to be the products of &#039;strong parenting.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s absolute crap Jon.  You should pay for the kids&#8217; confinement. Ok, that&#8217;s too simple, but it is consistent with your reasoning.  Also, since &#8220;bad parenting&#8221; is the cause of the problem, why not ask the grandparents of the offenders to pay too since they provided the bad parenting that provided the bad parenting&#8230;or maybe the offenders&#8217; great grandparents.  You were the product of strong parenting?  By what measure?  Truly strong parenting necessarily includes instilling tolerance in children.  While you approach tolerance in overlooking the role of the authorities in creating the conditions that you claim to find a problem with, you are intolerant of those who didn&#8217;t have the good fortune to be the products of &#8216;strong parenting.&#8217;</p>
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