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‘I got it from my momma’

MANY ACROSS AMERICA are singing the catchy pop tune “I Got it From My Momma” from Black Eyed Peas member Will.I.Am. As inviting as this song may be to our party consciousness, we can discern quite more from this factually-based lyric.

Given the fact that our biological make-up is defined, in large part, by the genetic connection to our mothers, coupled with many of our psychological propensities and physiological dependencies, we can certainly, without pause, say, “I got it from my momma!”

Urban sociologists and criminal justice researchers are quick to conclude that there is a causal relationship between high incarceration rates of youth and natal alienation (a disconnect between parents and children).

There are some who believe that young men who grow up without a father fail to become strong and well-rounded men.

They argue that these boys tend to be overly-aggressive, immature and lack responsibility. Further, they suggest that young ladies, estranged from their fathers, are prey for smooth-talking men, who may have the inclination to exact a paternal chastisement on their bodies physically and sexually, while they incessantly seek for that “daddy” in their numerous male relationships.

But do we give the presence of our mothers enough credit? Kanye West does, and today he grieves the loss of his mother.

Donda West, Ph. D., focused on raising her talented son as a single mother in the African-American community, eventually becoming his manager, as he gained national attention as a new musical sensation.

True artists have the ability to appeal not only to our senses but also to our mind, and that is what Kanye, if taken seriously, accomplishes.

He may not have the alluring voice of a Lil Wayne, Snoop Dogg or the late Biggie. He may not create flawless rhymes like a Jay-Z, Fabolous or Eminem. But in the tradition of the guys from Black Thought, Common, Pac, MC Lyte, Queen Latifah, KRS-One, Nas, et al., Kanye attempts to provide a scathing critique of our common consciousness and force us to wrestle with our own sense of right and wrong.

He pushes even the conscious rappers to a level of entertainment and psychic freedom that very few have done since 2Pac.

Kanye’s music, and life, seeks to uplift and sustain self and community while representing the best of creativity and individuality. Under his mother’s leadership of the Kanye West Foundation, its purposed goal is the education of those who may have slipped through the cracks of truancy, teen pregnancy and juvenile incarceration. His music, albeit consistent in the American fetish of materialism, resists the industry’s luring temptation of misogyny and challenges women to seek a better or “G.O.O.D” Life.

His mother, an English professor, instilled the power of language and metaphor into her son while sustaining his place in the unnerving streets of our inner-city (or “Keeping it Real”).

She, like millions of single mothers, deserves deep appreciation and intellectual respect, as she produced one of the most innovative and free-minded artists of our generation.

May God grant eternal rest to your soul and may your light continually shine in the life of your son, who influences us all.

Bless her life and the lives of all mothers, like mine Sandra, who demand excellence of their children.

 

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100 Responses to ‘I got it from my momma’

  1. Zack Morris says:

    Professor, I like to call rap music “crap music.” Yeah, Kanye West avoids the misogyny in his music——doesn’t mean his CD’s are worth the jewel case that the discs is sold within.

    He still thinks he’s some sort of victim—–the crown of thorns thing? —-dammit your mom was a professor—–you didn’t lead the disadvantaged inner-city black upbringing.

  2. Zack Morris says:

    Professor, I like to call rap music “crap music.” Yeah, Kanye West avoids the misogyny in his music——doesn’t mean his CD’s are worth the jewel case that the discs is sold within.

    He still thinks he’s some sort of victim—–the crown of thorns thing? —-dammit your mom was a professor—–you didn’t lead the disadvantaged inner-city black upbringing.

  3. Whatever says:

    Let us all gaze upon Morris’ revolutionary pun of “crap” music.

    Go listen to Nickelback or Incubus or something then.

    Dr. Bailey’s column didn’t warrant such a sophomoronic response and you should be embarrassed.

    “Thinks he’s some sort of victim.”? Come on man, it’s show business. You’re really naive if you think this image stuff is more than an act.

  4. Whatever says:

    Let us all gaze upon Morris’ revolutionary pun of “crap” music.

    Go listen to Nickelback or Incubus or something then.

    Dr. Bailey’s column didn’t warrant such a sophomoronic response and you should be embarrassed.

    “Thinks he’s some sort of victim.”? Come on man, it’s show business. You’re really naive if you think this image stuff is more than an act.

  5. Fire Welty Now! says:

    I agree, rap music is really better called ‘crap music.’ The talent is just not there.

  6. Fire Welty Now! says:

    I agree, rap music is really better called ‘crap music.’ The talent is just not there.

  7. Kelly says:

    I think this is a very well put together article. Hopefully he can continue his career now that his mom is gone; maybe do it for her. I don’t listen to rap music so I don’t know too much about it. I do agree that “young ladies, estranged from their fathers, are prey for smooth-talking men, who may have the inclination to exact a paternal chastisement on their bodies physically and sexually, while they incessantly seek for that “daddy” in their numerous male relationships.” It is not in all cases, but it can be true. Many people struggle for a sense of belonging. Also, I think that some boys without a father can “fail to be strong or well rounded”, but I think that in many cases it is not true. I think many men turn their lives around and want to be the opposite of what their father was for them. They want to change the next generation and be a good father figure for their children. I think their moms contribute to this sense of nurture and parenthood for them. Good article Dr. Bailey.

  8. Kelly says:

    I think this is a very well put together article. Hopefully he can continue his career now that his mom is gone; maybe do it for her. I don’t listen to rap music so I don’t know too much about it. I do agree that “young ladies, estranged from their fathers, are prey for smooth-talking men, who may have the inclination to exact a paternal chastisement on their bodies physically and sexually, while they incessantly seek for that “daddy” in their numerous male relationships.” It is not in all cases, but it can be true. Many people struggle for a sense of belonging. Also, I think that some boys without a father can “fail to be strong or well rounded”, but I think that in many cases it is not true. I think many men turn their lives around and want to be the opposite of what their father was for them. They want to change the next generation and be a good father figure for their children. I think their moms contribute to this sense of nurture and parenthood for them. Good article Dr. Bailey.

  9. Adriana Garcia says:

    Like’s try not to forget the message of the article, if it wasn’t for our parents today that push their children to become the best of our natural abilty we wouldn’t be the person we are today. For example Kanye West and his mother, she raised him in the inn-city in the African-American community. She probably didn’t want him to loose track of where he comes from and to point out the problems we have in America. Another example is Tupac and his mother, she was a black panther leader. She taugh him how to speak up and express your thoughts.
    Oh, by the way if your going to speak badly against rap music and the artist, maybe you should listen to their whole album instead of one song. Yes, i’m tired of rappers calling women bitch, sluts, and whores. But after listening to Ludrics album, he does express that black men aren’t doing enough and he as skits making them look bad.

  10. Adriana Garcia says:

    Like’s try not to forget the message of the article, if it wasn’t for our parents today that push their children to become the best of our natural abilty we wouldn’t be the person we are today. For example Kanye West and his mother, she raised him in the inn-city in the African-American community. She probably didn’t want him to loose track of where he comes from and to point out the problems we have in America. Another example is Tupac and his mother, she was a black panther leader. She taugh him how to speak up and express your thoughts.
    Oh, by the way if your going to speak badly against rap music and the artist, maybe you should listen to their whole album instead of one song. Yes, i’m tired of rappers calling women bitch, sluts, and whores. But after listening to Ludrics album, he does express that black men aren’t doing enough and he as skits making them look bad.

  11. Lorenzo S. says:

    I think what we are really looking at is, if a home that is not parented by both mother and father, will this somehow allow there children to slip up and instead of becoming individuals they just “go with the flow” with what societys believes to be normal? Yes it’s entertainment, but with many other things it can become a trend, a trend in which children can fall into.

  12. Lorenzo S. says:

    I think what we are really looking at is, if a home that is not parented by both mother and father, will this somehow allow there children to slip up and instead of becoming individuals they just “go with the flow” with what societys believes to be normal? Yes it’s entertainment, but with many other things it can become a trend, a trend in which children can fall into.

  13. Caroline Dower says:

    Alright, I agree, I do not believe that this article was in any way a discussion as to the harms and benefits of rap music. The focus of the article was to first give credit to our mothers, or for a more politically correct label, our caregivers/guardians. Kanye West was an example of one such individual who is doing such. Dr. Bailey was using him to illustrate an individual whose mother did all that she could for her son, and now after her passing he has the ability to continue to give back to what she sacrificed. Working and studying Social Work and Child Development it is essential to understand that although it may not be a biological mother or father, a person is needed to fill that role for a child to be well-adjusted. Not to say that there are not children who are able to make it without such individuals, but typically there is a need for a surrogate mother and/or father for there to be a successful social and emotional development. And although we all may not be able to look to the individuals who physically gave birth to us, for everyone of us there is someone that we can look to who has sacrificed, loved, and given to us as much as they could.
    As for the thinking that he is a victim, who is to say that he was not. A person who grows up in an affluent area can still be a victim, especially as a minority. Again in Social Work it is called the “visibility principle”. When you are in an area where you are a distinct minority research has shown that they do become victims of the system due to the fact that they stand out. If what I have written is disagreed upon and not understood, that is fine. I really do not care, as already I know there will be many responses saying that this is not so, and that is fine. I personally have seen it, not experienced due to my Whiteness, but I have watched many go through this. Yet, in addition, it also must be understood that rappers as with all artist do have to fall under the umbrella of what will sell. There are some who are true to themselves, and thus suffer for it, and there are some who fall prey to the media and follow the directions as to what will sell. There are many who sell products that they either do not use or believe in….it is part of our capitalist system.
    We are all given the right to like what music we like and what music we do not, that is a personal choice. Regardless the piece was also to give respect to someone who in raising her son has done much for our society through him. (Whether you like it or not….so has Barbara Bush, whether you like it or not.) Regardless of your personal feelings someone has passed away and there are people who are hurting because of it.
    Thank you Dr. Bailey for taking the time to thank those who have gotten us to where we are, and for taking the time to give respect to a life that was lived. I wish that we would take more time to do this for all individuals.
    Sorry for the length, my thoughts are long.

  14. Caroline Dower says:

    Alright, I agree, I do not believe that this article was in any way a discussion as to the harms and benefits of rap music. The focus of the article was to first give credit to our mothers, or for a more politically correct label, our caregivers/guardians. Kanye West was an example of one such individual who is doing such. Dr. Bailey was using him to illustrate an individual whose mother did all that she could for her son, and now after her passing he has the ability to continue to give back to what she sacrificed. Working and studying Social Work and Child Development it is essential to understand that although it may not be a biological mother or father, a person is needed to fill that role for a child to be well-adjusted. Not to say that there are not children who are able to make it without such individuals, but typically there is a need for a surrogate mother and/or father for there to be a successful social and emotional development. And although we all may not be able to look to the individuals who physically gave birth to us, for everyone of us there is someone that we can look to who has sacrificed, loved, and given to us as much as they could.
    As for the thinking that he is a victim, who is to say that he was not. A person who grows up in an affluent area can still be a victim, especially as a minority. Again in Social Work it is called the “visibility principle”. When you are in an area where you are a distinct minority research has shown that they do become victims of the system due to the fact that they stand out. If what I have written is disagreed upon and not understood, that is fine. I really do not care, as already I know there will be many responses saying that this is not so, and that is fine. I personally have seen it, not experienced due to my Whiteness, but I have watched many go through this. Yet, in addition, it also must be understood that rappers as with all artist do have to fall under the umbrella of what will sell. There are some who are true to themselves, and thus suffer for it, and there are some who fall prey to the media and follow the directions as to what will sell. There are many who sell products that they either do not use or believe in….it is part of our capitalist system.
    We are all given the right to like what music we like and what music we do not, that is a personal choice. Regardless the piece was also to give respect to someone who in raising her son has done much for our society through him. (Whether you like it or not….so has Barbara Bush, whether you like it or not.) Regardless of your personal feelings someone has passed away and there are people who are hurting because of it.
    Thank you Dr. Bailey for taking the time to thank those who have gotten us to where we are, and for taking the time to give respect to a life that was lived. I wish that we would take more time to do this for all individuals.
    Sorry for the length, my thoughts are long.

  15. elisa paredez says:

    I believe this article is a written tribute to single mothers who raise their children right through adversity, and bring them up to be mature respectable and responsible adults. Kanye owes alot to his mother, if it wasn’t for her upbringing who knows if Kanye would ever had become the talented rapper he is today? I like Kanye he doesn’t just rap about cars easy women and alcohol. He brings to light issues affecting the world like the song “Diamonds from Sierra Leone.” He brings attention to the people of Sierra Leone who are exploited by the diamond company. He is a socialy conscious rapper. Like the article states” Kanye’s music seeks to uplift.” Dr. Bailey is right in giving the credit to his mother, afterall we become what we are taught and showed to be.

  16. Sara Gordon says:

    Dr. Bailey is giving credit where credit is due. There is no other group that is more disriminated against , in this country then African American women. Here is an example of a beautiful, strong, educated woman of color. Dr. West was able to have a career and raise a son that is a very talented and successful artist, who would deny this woman some praise?
    Now in defense of rap, I agree that there is some rap that isn’t great, I don’t know if I would ever call it “crap” since it is art? Rap is an artistic expression, many rappers music contain graphic, sexual, and violent lyrics; for many of those rappers that is the life they were a part of. I think so many Americans are in denial of the sociological circumstances, inhabitants of inner cities face day to day. These artists (rappers) are bringing light to a very real situation.
    Finally I want to say that Kayne West is brilliant and a very brave man. I was watching the Katrina Relief special, when the camera turned to Kayne and Mike Myers and Kayne said what every American was thinking. The situtation in New Orleans exposed the most powerful example of racism and classim that this country has seen since the Civil Rights movement. For Kayne to verbalize his controversial opinion was so significant, it reminded me just how powerful and extraordinary free speech is in this country. Kayne has also taken a recent stance against diamond mining, he was a part of a documentary against the probelms with the diamond industry, which goes against the style of most rappers.

  17. elisa paredez says:

    I believe this article is a written tribute to single mothers who raise their children right through adversity, and bring them up to be mature respectable and responsible adults. Kanye owes alot to his mother, if it wasn’t for her upbringing who knows if Kanye would ever had become the talented rapper he is today? I like Kanye he doesn’t just rap about cars easy women and alcohol. He brings to light issues affecting the world like the song “Diamonds from Sierra Leone.” He brings attention to the people of Sierra Leone who are exploited by the diamond company. He is a socialy conscious rapper. Like the article states” Kanye’s music seeks to uplift.” Dr. Bailey is right in giving the credit to his mother, afterall we become what we are taught and showed to be.

  18. Sara Gordon says:

    Dr. Bailey is giving credit where credit is due. There is no other group that is more disriminated against , in this country then African American women. Here is an example of a beautiful, strong, educated woman of color. Dr. West was able to have a career and raise a son that is a very talented and successful artist, who would deny this woman some praise?
    Now in defense of rap, I agree that there is some rap that isn’t great, I don’t know if I would ever call it “crap” since it is art? Rap is an artistic expression, many rappers music contain graphic, sexual, and violent lyrics; for many of those rappers that is the life they were a part of. I think so many Americans are in denial of the sociological circumstances, inhabitants of inner cities face day to day. These artists (rappers) are bringing light to a very real situation.
    Finally I want to say that Kayne West is brilliant and a very brave man. I was watching the Katrina Relief special, when the camera turned to Kayne and Mike Myers and Kayne said what every American was thinking. The situtation in New Orleans exposed the most powerful example of racism and classim that this country has seen since the Civil Rights movement. For Kayne to verbalize his controversial opinion was so significant, it reminded me just how powerful and extraordinary free speech is in this country. Kayne has also taken a recent stance against diamond mining, he was a part of a documentary against the probelms with the diamond industry, which goes against the style of most rappers.

  19. Natalie says:

    I would like to agree with Kelly in stating that this article is very well put together and raises many interesting issues. First of all, it sounds as though Kanye West is a very lucky man to have been brought up by such an incredible woman. It is wonderful that he learned from his mother’s teachings and followed her in bringing an influential and successful image and message to the world. However, I am a Psychology major and I do believe there is a consistant relevancy between children who lack a father and many other negative aspects of life. Having a stable two parent family dynamic is crucial for any child. Not to say that one is not capable of a strong upbringing without one parent. I am saying, that if a child does not have a parent that is focused on their growth, who does not communicate, or spend time with their child most often produce debilated children. I, myself has not had a father around but I am a very productive, smart, and intelligent being that suffers from the typical “need a male figure” woman. I see that clearly in my sister and I. Psychological affects of not having a father will be evident in any child, they may still live a wonderful fulfilled life. We should give a sincere appreciation for those parents who do not have a choice but to raise their children solely, such as Kanye’s mother.

  20. Natalie says:

    I would like to agree with Kelly in stating that this article is very well put together and raises many interesting issues. First of all, it sounds as though Kanye West is a very lucky man to have been brought up by such an incredible woman. It is wonderful that he learned from his mother’s teachings and followed her in bringing an influential and successful image and message to the world. However, I am a Psychology major and I do believe there is a consistant relevancy between children who lack a father and many other negative aspects of life. Having a stable two parent family dynamic is crucial for any child. Not to say that one is not capable of a strong upbringing without one parent. I am saying, that if a child does not have a parent that is focused on their growth, who does not communicate, or spend time with their child most often produce debilated children. I, myself has not had a father around but I am a very productive, smart, and intelligent being that suffers from the typical “need a male figure” woman. I see that clearly in my sister and I. Psychological affects of not having a father will be evident in any child, they may still live a wonderful fulfilled life. We should give a sincere appreciation for those parents who do not have a choice but to raise their children solely, such as Kanye’s mother.

  21. Samantha says:

    Kanye West is very lucky to have the life that he does. Statistics show that children who grow up without a father are more likely to live in poverty, be unemployed, and have more health problems. Some more startling statistics are that seventy-two percent of all teenage murderers grew up without fathers in their homes, sixty percent of rapists were raised in fatherless homes, and eighty percent of the adolescents in psychiatric hospitals come from fatherless homes. I believe that growing up without a father is a huge problem for children and that Kanye West is an exception to the statistics. Somehow his mother was amazing enough to keep him out of trouble and he was able to become the person that he is today. This just speaks volumes about Donda West, or any single mother, who can raise a child who is an exception to the statistics. They have overcome something many of us cannot even imagine. I completely agree with Dr. Bailey’s statement, “She, like millions of single mothers, deserves deep appreciation and intellectual respect, as she produced one of the most innovative and free-minded artists of our generation.” I don’t know much about what else he is involved in, but I know that Kanye is a very successful record producer and music artist. I would say he owes all of his success to his “momma”, and it’s very sad that he has lost this amazing person in his life.

  22. Samantha says:

    Kanye West is very lucky to have the life that he does. Statistics show that children who grow up without a father are more likely to live in poverty, be unemployed, and have more health problems. Some more startling statistics are that seventy-two percent of all teenage murderers grew up without fathers in their homes, sixty percent of rapists were raised in fatherless homes, and eighty percent of the adolescents in psychiatric hospitals come from fatherless homes. I believe that growing up without a father is a huge problem for children and that Kanye West is an exception to the statistics. Somehow his mother was amazing enough to keep him out of trouble and he was able to become the person that he is today. This just speaks volumes about Donda West, or any single mother, who can raise a child who is an exception to the statistics. They have overcome something many of us cannot even imagine. I completely agree with Dr. Bailey’s statement, “She, like millions of single mothers, deserves deep appreciation and intellectual respect, as she produced one of the most innovative and free-minded artists of our generation.” I don’t know much about what else he is involved in, but I know that Kanye is a very successful record producer and music artist. I would say he owes all of his success to his “momma”, and it’s very sad that he has lost this amazing person in his life.

  23. music4life says:

    I was shocked to see a professor say some of the things that he said. Maybe its my own pessimism when it comes to College and professors who stroke themselves more than they actually teach. I am just a working Joe in the Valley who loves every piece of Music from Billy Joel to the beach boys to even Snoop Dogg. Professor Bailey, and I wonder how old he is, said some real relevent stuff. He speaks with a bias on the side of unwed mothers (but since his mom was according to the article it makes sense. The valley is priviledged to have such a guy like this here. Is it safe to assume he is black? Even if he is this is one smart black guy who I would probably enjoy listening to. Oh…I forgot to say, Im a white guy raised by a single mother and now a single dad cause my son’s mother left to pursue a drug life so I know that it is hard being single and I sure hope that my son is not a stastic of the bad but maybe grow to be successful like Kanye West. Go ahead Kanye and you too Professor Bailey and let “Jesus Walk” with you.

  24. music4life says:

    I was shocked to see a professor say some of the things that he said. Maybe its my own pessimism when it comes to College and professors who stroke themselves more than they actually teach. I am just a working Joe in the Valley who loves every piece of Music from Billy Joel to the beach boys to even Snoop Dogg. Professor Bailey, and I wonder how old he is, said some real relevent stuff. He speaks with a bias on the side of unwed mothers (but since his mom was according to the article it makes sense. The valley is priviledged to have such a guy like this here. Is it safe to assume he is black? Even if he is this is one smart black guy who I would probably enjoy listening to. Oh…I forgot to say, Im a white guy raised by a single mother and now a single dad cause my son’s mother left to pursue a drug life so I know that it is hard being single and I sure hope that my son is not a stastic of the bad but maybe grow to be successful like Kanye West. Go ahead Kanye and you too Professor Bailey and let “Jesus Walk” with you.

  25. Valerie Gunsolus says:

    It is always sad to hear about someone’s parent dieing, especially if you know that the parent did everything they could in raising their child. Kanye’s mother did an incredible job of raising him as a single parent. I don’t think single parents get enough credit in this society because raising a child by yourself is looked down upon. This view is portrayed when researchers say that “there is a causal relationship between high incarceration rates of youth and natal alienation” and when people think that “young men who grow up without a father fail to become strong and well-rounded men”. Sure, there are some cases where these statements are true, but what about all the other single parents who raised their children successfully. It may be harder to be a single parent but it can still be done. Single mother’s deserve double the credit of the mother’s who have the father’s help. They should not be looked down upon and they should not have to hear about how statistics show that their children will grow up only to go to prison or get into trouble. My mema ran away from her abusive and dangerous husband from Kentucky to California with her six kids all by herself and raised them as a single mother. None of them are in jail and they all have a better life now. That proves that raising children as a single parent can be done successfully and mother’s deserve more credit.

  26. Valerie Gunsolus says:

    It is always sad to hear about someone’s parent dieing, especially if you know that the parent did everything they could in raising their child. Kanye’s mother did an incredible job of raising him as a single parent. I don’t think single parents get enough credit in this society because raising a child by yourself is looked down upon. This view is portrayed when researchers say that “there is a causal relationship between high incarceration rates of youth and natal alienation” and when people think that “young men who grow up without a father fail to become strong and well-rounded men”. Sure, there are some cases where these statements are true, but what about all the other single parents who raised their children successfully. It may be harder to be a single parent but it can still be done. Single mother’s deserve double the credit of the mother’s who have the father’s help. They should not be looked down upon and they should not have to hear about how statistics show that their children will grow up only to go to prison or get into trouble. My mema ran away from her abusive and dangerous husband from Kentucky to California with her six kids all by herself and raised them as a single mother. None of them are in jail and they all have a better life now. That proves that raising children as a single parent can be done successfully and mother’s deserve more credit.

  27. Michelle H. says:

    I have never listened to rap, R & B, heavy metal or anything else to that extent. To me there is no need to get that loud and hard to understand to make a point with music. However, as I look at Kanye West and his loss I pray for him and feel sorry for him. It is hard to loose a parent, especially one that you are close with and he has no one else to turn to now. His mom gave him so much knowledge when she was alive that he should feel blessed for that.
    I was raised in a single parent home. My mom was/is always around and she has and is giving me a lot of guidance on many topics. Now, my father was around for a while, but to me he didnt play a part when I was growing up. When he was around he always put me down and made me feel like crap, never was there an attachment. Now, as I sit here today I think about what was said in this article and become a little upset. I am upset because of my situation Im being told Im more prone to searching for the “daddy figure” and will try to get it in any means possible? I dont t hink so. I feel that when given the right guidance and advice from another parent that people are not as likely to become as open to some ideas. This concept is also true with boys. Yes, I know that it has been shown that when there isnt the male influence they become more aggressive, but why dont we as people try and help solve that issue. Why dont we teach the children why they are important instead of making sure they are always getting the highest score on the test. Why dont we make institutions to help single families make sure there kids arent home alone from 3-6 pm or whatever the time frame might be. Why dont we as a country of people help stop these feelings. And lastly WHY DO WE NOT GIVE CREDIT TO OUR MOTHERS and or FATHERS WHO HAVE FILLED THE VOID TO THEIR CHILDREN? It is the void that must be filled, it is the child that must be loved, and it is a parent that fullfills those needs. So, thank you to Dr. Donda West for giving your son so much and giving him all you could.

  28. Michelle H. says:

    I have never listened to rap, R & B, heavy metal or anything else to that extent. To me there is no need to get that loud and hard to understand to make a point with music. However, as I look at Kanye West and his loss I pray for him and feel sorry for him. It is hard to loose a parent, especially one that you are close with and he has no one else to turn to now. His mom gave him so much knowledge when she was alive that he should feel blessed for that.
    I was raised in a single parent home. My mom was/is always around and she has and is giving me a lot of guidance on many topics. Now, my father was around for a while, but to me he didnt play a part when I was growing up. When he was around he always put me down and made me feel like crap, never was there an attachment. Now, as I sit here today I think about what was said in this article and become a little upset. I am upset because of my situation Im being told Im more prone to searching for the “daddy figure” and will try to get it in any means possible? I dont t hink so. I feel that when given the right guidance and advice from another parent that people are not as likely to become as open to some ideas. This concept is also true with boys. Yes, I know that it has been shown that when there isnt the male influence they become more aggressive, but why dont we as people try and help solve that issue. Why dont we teach the children why they are important instead of making sure they are always getting the highest score on the test. Why dont we make institutions to help single families make sure there kids arent home alone from 3-6 pm or whatever the time frame might be. Why dont we as a country of people help stop these feelings. And lastly WHY DO WE NOT GIVE CREDIT TO OUR MOTHERS and or FATHERS WHO HAVE FILLED THE VOID TO THEIR CHILDREN? It is the void that must be filled, it is the child that must be loved, and it is a parent that fullfills those needs. So, thank you to Dr. Donda West for giving your son so much and giving him all you could.

  29. Mike Garcia says:

    Let me first start off by saying, I do not own a Kanye Wes album, however I do find his songs on the radio catchy and like them. From watching interviews of him on TV, I can see that he is a deep, deep thinker and an artist who uses rap as his pallet. My only dislike of him is when he went stole another artist’s moment on an award show because he did not win. I didn’t think that was very cool. I think that it is true; we do get it from our mama. We can all look at our mothers and see traits, mannerisms, and other behavior that we share with out mothers and fathers.”But do we give the presence of our mothers enough credit? Kanye West does, and today he grieves the loss of his mother.” I think that it is great thing that Kanye was so open about his love for his mother, and letting people know that she had a profound impact on her. We should all give our mothers credit. Raising children is the hardest job out there. They are responsible for shaping the mind and instilling values of another human being. I don’t know what life would be like if I didn’t have the mother that I did. I thank God my mom is the strong person she is. I know Kanye will only become stronger from this.

  30. Mike Garcia says:

    Let me first start off by saying, I do not own a Kanye Wes album, however I do find his songs on the radio catchy and like them. From watching interviews of him on TV, I can see that he is a deep, deep thinker and an artist who uses rap as his pallet. My only dislike of him is when he went stole another artist’s moment on an award show because he did not win. I didn’t think that was very cool. I think that it is true; we do get it from our mama. We can all look at our mothers and see traits, mannerisms, and other behavior that we share with out mothers and fathers.”But do we give the presence of our mothers enough credit? Kanye West does, and today he grieves the loss of his mother.” I think that it is great thing that Kanye was so open about his love for his mother, and letting people know that she had a profound impact on her. We should all give our mothers credit. Raising children is the hardest job out there. They are responsible for shaping the mind and instilling values of another human being. I don’t know what life would be like if I didn’t have the mother that I did. I thank God my mom is the strong person she is. I know Kanye will only become stronger from this.

  31. Tracy DLC says:

    I had never thought of “I got it from my momma” as anything more than just a phrase or a song lyric. After reading the article and what Dr. Bailey had to say I realize that there is a certain level of truth associated with the phrase. When I was done with the article I stopped to think about the question posed by Dr. Bailey, “do we give the presence of our mothers enough credit? From personal experience and observations I can say that mothers don’t always get due credit. Kanye West was truly blessed to have such a devoted and supportive mother, it’s a good thing that he appreciated her as muc as he did.
    I have never before heard of “natal alienation (a disconnect between parents and children,” but I understand the effect it can have. It is unfortunate that there is a “causal relationship between high incarceration rates and natal alienation.” It is obvious that natal alienation should be avoided at all costs but I understand that for some people this is easier said than done. I think parents, mothers and fathers, who had some of the same values as Donda West “deserve deep appreciation and intellectual respect.” Kanye West is an example of what a good parent can do for their child. No one said life was going to be easy but with a good parent by your side it can be a little less stressful.

  32. Tracy DLC says:

    I had never thought of “I got it from my momma” as anything more than just a phrase or a song lyric. After reading the article and what Dr. Bailey had to say I realize that there is a certain level of truth associated with the phrase. When I was done with the article I stopped to think about the question posed by Dr. Bailey, “do we give the presence of our mothers enough credit? From personal experience and observations I can say that mothers don’t always get due credit. Kanye West was truly blessed to have such a devoted and supportive mother, it’s a good thing that he appreciated her as muc as he did.
    I have never before heard of “natal alienation (a disconnect between parents and children,” but I understand the effect it can have. It is unfortunate that there is a “causal relationship between high incarceration rates and natal alienation.” It is obvious that natal alienation should be avoided at all costs but I understand that for some people this is easier said than done. I think parents, mothers and fathers, who had some of the same values as Donda West “deserve deep appreciation and intellectual respect.” Kanye West is an example of what a good parent can do for their child. No one said life was going to be easy but with a good parent by your side it can be a little less stressful.

  33. Robin S. says:

    I have to give praise to Donda West for raising a boy into the man he is today. Though I do not listen to his genre of music, I have many friends who do, and I know what some of his songs have ment to them.
    Though I wish they weren’t true, statistics do not lie. I am fortunate enough to have both my father and my mother in my life as they just celebrated their 31st wedding anniversary. I never knew and understood the affects of growing up in a single parent home until I met my fiance. His father left him, his mom, and sister when he was only ten. He never had a steady father figure in his life, only when his dad would show up for a week or two and then leave. I see the stress and the anxiety and the fear of abandonment in my fiance everday; yet because of his mom, he is a strong and independent man who will one day instill those values into our children.
    On the otherhand, I have seen first hand the affects a girl can have when a father figure is not in the scene. My cousin’s father (my uncle) died when she was eleven. They had a very close relationship and his death was very difficult for her at such a young age. Over the past eightteen years, my cousin has dating numerous men with relationships that don’t last longer that a few months. I know that she has set the bar high for her standards on finding the perfect mate, because she is also trying to find the one that is most like her “daddy”.
    I will never know what it is like to grow up without a father or a mother and I am thankful for that because I know it is not very common among my peers. But I thank God daily for what I have and thank my parents for the values they have instilled in me and my sister. I know I am fortunate and hope that one day I will be able to pass down the values I have learned not only to my children but to my students as well.

  34. Robin S. says:

    I have to give praise to Donda West for raising a boy into the man he is today. Though I do not listen to his genre of music, I have many friends who do, and I know what some of his songs have ment to them.
    Though I wish they weren’t true, statistics do not lie. I am fortunate enough to have both my father and my mother in my life as they just celebrated their 31st wedding anniversary. I never knew and understood the affects of growing up in a single parent home until I met my fiance. His father left him, his mom, and sister when he was only ten. He never had a steady father figure in his life, only when his dad would show up for a week or two and then leave. I see the stress and the anxiety and the fear of abandonment in my fiance everday; yet because of his mom, he is a strong and independent man who will one day instill those values into our children.
    On the otherhand, I have seen first hand the affects a girl can have when a father figure is not in the scene. My cousin’s father (my uncle) died when she was eleven. They had a very close relationship and his death was very difficult for her at such a young age. Over the past eightteen years, my cousin has dating numerous men with relationships that don’t last longer that a few months. I know that she has set the bar high for her standards on finding the perfect mate, because she is also trying to find the one that is most like her “daddy”.
    I will never know what it is like to grow up without a father or a mother and I am thankful for that because I know it is not very common among my peers. But I thank God daily for what I have and thank my parents for the values they have instilled in me and my sister. I know I am fortunate and hope that one day I will be able to pass down the values I have learned not only to my children but to my students as well.

  35. hBoBh/Courtney says:

    Although i do not care for rap music, i do think that Kayne’s mother broke the stereotype of the “african female”. she dind’t not go out and get pregnant and live off of welfare the rest of her life, her child wasn’t a gangster and didn’t do other illegal things. It’s very hard for a parent to stress the importance of gettin a good education and making something of yourself to their children. Every parents wants their child to grow up and have a good life, no one truly wants them to become gang members or be locked up in jail. if only all parents (single or married) would show such a great example to their children, would this world be a better place. Like tracy DLC said, we, as a society, don’t give parents enough credit for raising their children into a healthy adulthood.

    I was listening to the radio today and apparently something due to medical complications is what killed Dr West. I was curious on if anyone knew exactly what happened…

  36. hBoBh/Courtney says:

    Although i do not care for rap music, i do think that Kayne’s mother broke the stereotype of the “african female”. she dind’t not go out and get pregnant and live off of welfare the rest of her life, her child wasn’t a gangster and didn’t do other illegal things. It’s very hard for a parent to stress the importance of gettin a good education and making something of yourself to their children. Every parents wants their child to grow up and have a good life, no one truly wants them to become gang members or be locked up in jail. if only all parents (single or married) would show such a great example to their children, would this world be a better place. Like tracy DLC said, we, as a society, don’t give parents enough credit for raising their children into a healthy adulthood.

    I was listening to the radio today and apparently something due to medical complications is what killed Dr West. I was curious on if anyone knew exactly what happened…

  37. Patrick Smith - AAIS 104W T6-9 says:

    I have to admit that the sum of my knownledge of Kayne is what i have just read in this articale. I do not listen to much rap or know more than two rap artist names off the top of my head. But after reading this artical about Kayne west I now realize that his mother worked hard for her education and she was a large influence in his life. After Kayne’s mothers recent death it is appearnt he has written a song in memberence of her. Just becuase there are half naked girls dancing as the song plays is just a consumer demand and has nothing to do to the amount of respect Kanye has for his mother.

    Note to Dr. Baily:
    After you have finished at this University I wish you luck in your travels and hope you are able to find a nitch that fits your teaching style.

  38. Patrick Smith - AAIS 104W T6-9 says:

    I have to admit that the sum of my knownledge of Kayne is what i have just read in this articale. I do not listen to much rap or know more than two rap artist names off the top of my head. But after reading this artical about Kayne west I now realize that his mother worked hard for her education and she was a large influence in his life. After Kayne’s mothers recent death it is appearnt he has written a song in memberence of her. Just becuase there are half naked girls dancing as the song plays is just a consumer demand and has nothing to do to the amount of respect Kanye has for his mother.

    Note to Dr. Baily:
    After you have finished at this University I wish you luck in your travels and hope you are able to find a nitch that fits your teaching style.

  39. music4life says:

    I am surprised to read the above comment from someone I guess is in Dr Bailey’s class. What song did Kanye write for his mother? WHat is that Patrick guy smokin? And what…Dr. Bailey or Baily? I sure hope that professor isnt too sensitive about his words or even his name cause he screwed both of it up. But I really dont know why Pat Smith bothered to say anything cause he said nothing. Almost like the first comment. Come on

  40. music4life says:

    I am surprised to read the above comment from someone I guess is in Dr Bailey’s class. What song did Kanye write for his mother? WHat is that Patrick guy smokin? And what…Dr. Bailey or Baily? I sure hope that professor isnt too sensitive about his words or even his name cause he screwed both of it up. But I really dont know why Pat Smith bothered to say anything cause he said nothing. Almost like the first comment. Come on

  41. Renee says:

    I’m sad to read what some people have gotten out of this article. This article obviously was not written glorify nor talk badly about rap music. So, why are people on here making new names for rap music. Why are you people taking away the good of this article and focusing on something that was not even a discussion? This article is focusing on a Strong Black Women who taught her son very well. She was not only a Strong Black Women, but a single partent. she raised her son along and was successful in her own life also. She was not a woman who just pushed for her sons success and did not have any of her own. She was an English Professor. She showed her son hard work and gave him the foundation to know what hard work look like. Yes, it is sad that Kanye was not raised with a Father, but I am sure he is grateful to have such a strong woman to love and support him. This was a very well written article and it focused on something that many people do not, Single mothers who bring out the best in the children.

  42. Renee says:

    I’m sad to read what some people have gotten out of this article. This article obviously was not written glorify nor talk badly about rap music. So, why are people on here making new names for rap music. Why are you people taking away the good of this article and focusing on something that was not even a discussion? This article is focusing on a Strong Black Women who taught her son very well. She was not only a Strong Black Women, but a single partent. she raised her son along and was successful in her own life also. She was not a woman who just pushed for her sons success and did not have any of her own. She was an English Professor. She showed her son hard work and gave him the foundation to know what hard work look like. Yes, it is sad that Kanye was not raised with a Father, but I am sure he is grateful to have such a strong woman to love and support him. This was a very well written article and it focused on something that many people do not, Single mothers who bring out the best in the children.

  43. Amanda Tjahjadi - Soc Sci 180 says:

    I can’t say that I’ve ever listened to Kayne West’s music before (yes, I live under a rock), but I do think that many people are responding to this article simply because they hate rap music. This article is primarily about a successful woman who just passed away; it is not a critique of rap music. Show a little respect for the person who just DIED, and also for the author of this article, by responding to what was written, please.

    I was/am fortunate enough to grow up with two parents, who are still married after 25 years. I cannot imagine life without my dad, who has made many sacrifices for my sister and me, and I feel bad for people who do not know their fathers. However, I don’t think that all children who grow up with a single parent, specifically a mother, turn into adults who are “messed up”. My boyfriend never knew his father and he turned out fine. He’s very hard working and is one of the top students in his major, rather than the stereotypical “..overly-aggressive, immature…”, tragic character we see on TV.

    I believe that Donda West’s true success with her son was that she was involved in his life and stressed education as a means to do better in life. Education is the greatest gift parents can give to their children, and Dr. West obviously fascinated her son with the concept of language before other less desirable influences could permeate him. It is better to have one parent who loves you than two parents who don’t.

  44. Amanda Tjahjadi - Soc Sci 180 says:

    I can’t say that I’ve ever listened to Kayne West’s music before (yes, I live under a rock), but I do think that many people are responding to this article simply because they hate rap music. This article is primarily about a successful woman who just passed away; it is not a critique of rap music. Show a little respect for the person who just DIED, and also for the author of this article, by responding to what was written, please.

    I was/am fortunate enough to grow up with two parents, who are still married after 25 years. I cannot imagine life without my dad, who has made many sacrifices for my sister and me, and I feel bad for people who do not know their fathers. However, I don’t think that all children who grow up with a single parent, specifically a mother, turn into adults who are “messed up”. My boyfriend never knew his father and he turned out fine. He’s very hard working and is one of the top students in his major, rather than the stereotypical “..overly-aggressive, immature…”, tragic character we see on TV.

    I believe that Donda West’s true success with her son was that she was involved in his life and stressed education as a means to do better in life. Education is the greatest gift parents can give to their children, and Dr. West obviously fascinated her son with the concept of language before other less desirable influences could permeate him. It is better to have one parent who loves you than two parents who don’t.

  45. Manuel M. says:

    Rap music has always been one of my favorite types of music . However this article has to do with a bit more than what or how people think of rap music. Which is obviously how some poeple have interpreted it.
    One of the first points in which i have to agree with Dr. Bailey is in that of the statement, “She, like millions of single mothers, deserves deep appreciation and intellectual respect….”.
    Secondly, because of past experiences with fellow peers i must also agree that children who grow up without a father tend to have certain problems that can be associated with not having both parents to guide them.
    Dr. West, may she rest in peace, is a great example and inspirational role model which has shown that these odds can be overcome. Good article Dr. Bailey

  46. Manuel M. says:

    Rap music has always been one of my favorite types of music . However this article has to do with a bit more than what or how people think of rap music. Which is obviously how some poeple have interpreted it.
    One of the first points in which i have to agree with Dr. Bailey is in that of the statement, “She, like millions of single mothers, deserves deep appreciation and intellectual respect….”.
    Secondly, because of past experiences with fellow peers i must also agree that children who grow up without a father tend to have certain problems that can be associated with not having both parents to guide them.
    Dr. West, may she rest in peace, is a great example and inspirational role model which has shown that these odds can be overcome. Good article Dr. Bailey

  47. F. Faris says:

    I would just like to say that i think that there is more than a “causal relationship between high incarceration rates of youth and natal alienation”, i would say there is more of a very strong connection. I was once affiliated with law enforcement and i saw many young people with one or no parent(s) constantly in trouble, and it wasn’t always “inner-city kids “either. So the fact that Ms. West was able to raise Kayne to be a success is a tribute in its’ self. I know that if it wasn’t for my mama I would be in a completely different place, most likely Corcron 1 state prison.

  48. F. Faris says:

    I would just like to say that i think that there is more than a “causal relationship between high incarceration rates of youth and natal alienation”, i would say there is more of a very strong connection. I was once affiliated with law enforcement and i saw many young people with one or no parent(s) constantly in trouble, and it wasn’t always “inner-city kids “either. So the fact that Ms. West was able to raise Kayne to be a success is a tribute in its’ self. I know that if it wasn’t for my mama I would be in a completely different place, most likely Corcron 1 state prison.

  49. Denise Talamantes says:

    I think I get your point Dr. Bailey. It is really hard sometimes not to bop my head to a song just because the beat sounds good. I have to admit that most of the time I don’t bother to listen to the lyrics or even when I do I still sing along even though it might be a senseless song. I know that you used the Black Eyed Peas song simply as an example and there are many other genres of music that also don’t put too much thought into the message that they are sending. When it is appropriate release a song about blaming only mothers for their daughters genetic make up it has gotten pretty bad. Thanks for encouraging me to think and be critical.

  50. Denise Talamantes says:

    I think I get your point Dr. Bailey. It is really hard sometimes not to bop my head to a song just because the beat sounds good. I have to admit that most of the time I don’t bother to listen to the lyrics or even when I do I still sing along even though it might be a senseless song. I know that you used the Black Eyed Peas song simply as an example and there are many other genres of music that also don’t put too much thought into the message that they are sending. When it is appropriate release a song about blaming only mothers for their daughters genetic make up it has gotten pretty bad. Thanks for encouraging me to think and be critical.

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