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	<title>Comments on: Some anatomy students face a dissection dilemma</title>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2007/10/31/some-anatomy-students-face-a-dissection-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-34903</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know first hand as a cat lover i understand that you wouldn&#039;t want to cut open a cat, but i didn&#039;t have that big of a problem with it because i know that the cats got to live a life. i did the cat dissection and i found it rather interesting once i got past the fact it was a cat. yes it&#039;s gross but you do lean a lot more when you get to handle the parts you are leaning about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know first hand as a cat lover i understand that you wouldn&#8217;t want to cut open a cat, but i didn&#8217;t have that big of a problem with it because i know that the cats got to live a life. i did the cat dissection and i found it rather interesting once i got past the fact it was a cat. yes it&#8217;s gross but you do lean a lot more when you get to handle the parts you are leaning about.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2007/10/31/some-anatomy-students-face-a-dissection-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-34556</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What bothers me the most is that I am a nursing student and also a huge animal rescue/rights supporter, and vegetarian. 

Watching this episode made me more than sad because I know that in Anatomy I will have to watch or participate in dissection. I truly feel that I won&#039;t be able to in good faith, do that. It&#039;s sad that my beliefs and lack of other options could stand in the way of a career I would be good at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What bothers me the most is that I am a nursing student and also a huge animal rescue/rights supporter, and vegetarian. </p>
<p>Watching this episode made me more than sad because I know that in Anatomy I will have to watch or participate in dissection. I truly feel that I won&#8217;t be able to in good faith, do that. It&#8217;s sad that my beliefs and lack of other options could stand in the way of a career I would be good at.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessi</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2007/10/31/some-anatomy-students-face-a-dissection-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-30290</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did animal dissection in high school, grade 9 and 10. I had a massive problem with it because they just threw it at us one day and it had nothing to do with the chemistry unit we were doing at the time.

Dissection should be a choice in high school, but a college course in anatomy? 
Come on, you had to see that coming.

As a vegan and animal rights supporter I am not for animal dissection but if she (Gallyer) felt so strongly about it she should not have taken the class, nor given in and did it when she felt pressured. 

And when did humans become a super-species?  We are the same as all other animals (or mammals I guess) we just have over-inflated egos

peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did animal dissection in high school, grade 9 and 10. I had a massive problem with it because they just threw it at us one day and it had nothing to do with the chemistry unit we were doing at the time.</p>
<p>Dissection should be a choice in high school, but a college course in anatomy?<br />
Come on, you had to see that coming.</p>
<p>As a vegan and animal rights supporter I am not for animal dissection but if she (Gallyer) felt so strongly about it she should not have taken the class, nor given in and did it when she felt pressured. </p>
<p>And when did humans become a super-species?  We are the same as all other animals (or mammals I guess) we just have over-inflated egos</p>
<p>peace</p>
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		<title>By: Trisha</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2007/10/31/some-anatomy-students-face-a-dissection-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-30186</link>
		<dc:creator>Trisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. So I really do not like animal dissection. There are hundreds of farms in the U.S.A that are just for raising animals so we can kill them, and bring them into our schools. And you hear all this news about how we don&#039;t have enough of this animal or that, so we take animals and breed them, and kill them.  For what? To learn something that has alreasdy been learned and recorded. Sure people may think that it is fun, but you can get replicas of animal bodys, and it would be just as fun, cheaper, and animal friendly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. So I really do not like animal dissection. There are hundreds of farms in the U.S.A that are just for raising animals so we can kill them, and bring them into our schools. And you hear all this news about how we don&#8217;t have enough of this animal or that, so we take animals and breed them, and kill them.  For what? To learn something that has alreasdy been learned and recorded. Sure people may think that it is fun, but you can get replicas of animal bodys, and it would be just as fun, cheaper, and animal friendly!</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Billings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather Billings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Collegian Staff Comment&lt;/i&gt;

Vehemently opposing views that cause violence and prejudice is a good thing.  

Respectfully disagreeing with someone else&#039;s beliefs is fine and encourages public discussion.

Ridiculing someone else&#039;s beliefs, especially when those beliefs do not affect you, is intolerance.

Personally, I wonder what professions health science majors end up in, and if dissecting cats is really all that valuable to them.  

I also wonder if Ms. Gallyer ever took high school biology.  We dissected baby pigs in ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Collegian Staff Comment</i></p>
<p>Vehemently opposing views that cause violence and prejudice is a good thing.  </p>
<p>Respectfully disagreeing with someone else&#8217;s beliefs is fine and encourages public discussion.</p>
<p>Ridiculing someone else&#8217;s beliefs, especially when those beliefs do not affect you, is intolerance.</p>
<p>Personally, I wonder what professions health science majors end up in, and if dissecting cats is really all that valuable to them.  </p>
<p>I also wonder if Ms. Gallyer ever took high school biology.  We dissected baby pigs in ours.</p>
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		<title>By: Whatever</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2007/10/31/some-anatomy-students-face-a-dissection-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-24601</link>
		<dc:creator>Whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My tone may have been a little uncalled for, but I consider her attack on my beliefs just as offensive. Just because her belief system is more established than mine doesn&#039;t mean she shouldn&#039;t have to justify her position.

Silly ideas should not be tolerated just because someone believes them. What about those who think black people are dumb and violent? Should we respect those opinions and BELIEFS? Everyone gets so caught up about BELIEFS like we can think no wrong. Well we believe wrong sometimes. There is a wrong answer: Humans are not animals.

Religion, although BS, is usually fine. Things get tricky when people start ignoring common sense because of it -- the earth being a few thousand years old, etc. Just read Leviticus for tons of great laughs. Women on their period - that chair you sat on is unclean until evening!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My tone may have been a little uncalled for, but I consider her attack on my beliefs just as offensive. Just because her belief system is more established than mine doesn&#8217;t mean she shouldn&#8217;t have to justify her position.</p>
<p>Silly ideas should not be tolerated just because someone believes them. What about those who think black people are dumb and violent? Should we respect those opinions and BELIEFS? Everyone gets so caught up about BELIEFS like we can think no wrong. Well we believe wrong sometimes. There is a wrong answer: Humans are not animals.</p>
<p>Religion, although BS, is usually fine. Things get tricky when people start ignoring common sense because of it &#8212; the earth being a few thousand years old, etc. Just read Leviticus for tons of great laughs. Women on their period &#8211; that chair you sat on is unclean until evening!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dunt Beawanka</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2007/10/31/some-anatomy-students-face-a-dissection-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-24578</link>
		<dc:creator>Dunt Beawanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religious views ARE mumbo jumbo.  Religion is trash and this notion that we have to RESPECT the views of others is whack.  If you believe you have an imaginary pal who lives up in the sky then I DO NOT RESPECT your beliefs.  You are mentally defective.  Look at the many problems we have in today&#039;s world.  An beliefs that an imaginary man in the clouds knows what it takes to live a good life is what gets people killed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religious views ARE mumbo jumbo.  Religion is trash and this notion that we have to RESPECT the views of others is whack.  If you believe you have an imaginary pal who lives up in the sky then I DO NOT RESPECT your beliefs.  You are mentally defective.  Look at the many problems we have in today&#8217;s world.  An beliefs that an imaginary man in the clouds knows what it takes to live a good life is what gets people killed.</p>
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		<title>By: Bluestone</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2007/10/31/some-anatomy-students-face-a-dissection-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-24573</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluestone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever,

I agree with gm. Don&#039;t foist you&#039;re views on others, and others won&#039;t foist their views on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever,</p>
<p>I agree with gm. Don&#8217;t foist you&#8217;re views on others, and others won&#8217;t foist their views on you.</p>
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		<title>By: gm</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2007/10/31/some-anatomy-students-face-a-dissection-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-24546</link>
		<dc:creator>gm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever,

If you are going to take the position that humans are animals just like others, fine. What you don&#039;t need to do is ridicule the religious views of others as &quot;mumbo jumbo.&quot; Make your argument based on your own beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever,</p>
<p>If you are going to take the position that humans are animals just like others, fine. What you don&#8217;t need to do is ridicule the religious views of others as &#8220;mumbo jumbo.&#8221; Make your argument based on your own beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Whatever</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2007/10/31/some-anatomy-students-face-a-dissection-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-24539</link>
		<dc:creator>Whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re ignoring BIOLOGY.

We are humans, but humans are also ANIMALS. We are mammals, to be more accurate. 

Think what you want about religious mumbo-jumbo, but we have legs, blood, lungs, brains, hair, just like other mammals, which are ANIMALS. I know you think you&#039;re so darn special that you somehow get to avoid animal status, but get over yourself!

Humanity&#039;s a big mistake!! We weren&#039;t meant to do all this crap! But noooo we had to go develop big brains and language.

Way to go, world!! I hope you&#039;re happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re ignoring BIOLOGY.</p>
<p>We are humans, but humans are also ANIMALS. We are mammals, to be more accurate. </p>
<p>Think what you want about religious mumbo-jumbo, but we have legs, blood, lungs, brains, hair, just like other mammals, which are ANIMALS. I know you think you&#8217;re so darn special that you somehow get to avoid animal status, but get over yourself!</p>
<p>Humanity&#8217;s a big mistake!! We weren&#8217;t meant to do all this crap! But noooo we had to go develop big brains and language.</p>
<p>Way to go, world!! I hope you&#8217;re happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn E.</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2007/10/31/some-anatomy-students-face-a-dissection-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-24536</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever, 

&quot;Humans ARE animals. I wish people would at least use the language correct.&quot;

Speak for yourself because I AM NOT an animal, I am a HUMAN BEING.  God created one to dominate the other for a reason and the soul has everything to do with it!  Animals don&#039;t worry about being a &quot;good horsey&quot; &quot;doggy, or &quot;kitty&quot; so they can go to animal heaven - (or animal hell for that matter).  GET REAL - THEY ARE ANIMALS!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever, </p>
<p>&#8220;Humans ARE animals. I wish people would at least use the language correct.&#8221;</p>
<p>Speak for yourself because I AM NOT an animal, I am a HUMAN BEING.  God created one to dominate the other for a reason and the soul has everything to do with it!  Animals don&#8217;t worry about being a &#8220;good horsey&#8221; &#8220;doggy, or &#8220;kitty&#8221; so they can go to animal heaven &#8211; (or animal hell for that matter).  GET REAL &#8211; THEY ARE ANIMALS!!</p>
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		<title>By: Whatever</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2007/10/31/some-anatomy-students-face-a-dissection-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-24502</link>
		<dc:creator>Whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re an animal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re an animal.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Billings</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2007/10/31/some-anatomy-students-face-a-dissection-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-24489</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather Billings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 05:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Collegian Staff Comment&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;I wish people would at least use the language correct.&quot;

So do I.  It&#039;s &quot;correctly.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Collegian Staff Comment</i></p>
<p>&#8220;I wish people would at least use the language correct.&#8221;</p>
<p>So do I.  It&#8217;s &#8220;correctly.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ash Ketchum Bowser</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2007/10/31/some-anatomy-students-face-a-dissection-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-24487</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash Ketchum Bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three problems-----ONE : the animals ARE killed specifically for dissection----that&#039;s well documented.

TWO:  the value of the animals is of little value to students not getting into vet. medicine

THREE: students know full well what they&#039;re getting into when they elect to enroll in anatomy labs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three problems&#8212;&#8211;ONE : the animals ARE killed specifically for dissection&#8212;-that&#8217;s well documented.</p>
<p>TWO:  the value of the animals is of little value to students not getting into vet. medicine</p>
<p>THREE: students know full well what they&#8217;re getting into when they elect to enroll in anatomy labs</p>
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		<title>By: Whatever</title>
		<link>http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2007/10/31/some-anatomy-students-face-a-dissection-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-24484</link>
		<dc:creator>Whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humans ARE animals. I wish people would at least use the language correct.

Humans are different than every other animal for many reasons, but the &quot;SOUL&quot; has nothing to do with it. It&#039;s called language and bipedal locomotion.

And everyone knows it comes down to cuteness. If horses were any uglier and were less useful, they&#039;d be dinner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humans ARE animals. I wish people would at least use the language correct.</p>
<p>Humans are different than every other animal for many reasons, but the &#8220;SOUL&#8221; has nothing to do with it. It&#8217;s called language and bipedal locomotion.</p>
<p>And everyone knows it comes down to cuteness. If horses were any uglier and were less useful, they&#8217;d be dinner!</p>
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