Best Regards

Why don’t you try getting a job or two even like most CSU students work 30 hours a week and then do some homework while balancing all your cost of living : rent, food, electricity, garbage, and gas then we can see how enthused you are in class too.

Don’t work you’ll be a zombie like us soon.

I am tired of trying to walk through a herd of high school students, myself, while I am on my way to class.

Have you ever been to a UC campus (excluding Merced and Riverside)?

Hmongs are cool…they dont count.

Just a (syntactically incorrect) note: CSUf is a CSU, AND it has HS students.

No need to get racial on Asians @ UC’s. UC’s don’t have an exclusive Asian population. CSUF has a large Asian population due to Hmong population in the valley, among other Asian cultures.

The UC’s have annoying Asians
The Ivy’s have annoying tourists
The CSU’s have idiots.
You have High Schoolers.

Also, I love that this turned into a longest reply and most syntactically complex competition.

Case & controversy: If the USU is busy, get out. That simple. It is not your space. Go play in YOUR sandbox, not ours. And is the UHS School Board paying fees (for facility usage and maintenance) in addition to class fees? That I’d like to know. I like sitting in the pit, but if there are groups of UHS students taking up a few tables, and it means all of the tables are full … it seriously irritates me. Not to mention having a group walk up and act and speak completely immature while attempting to study. (Not completely discounting that there are irritating college students from time to time, but not nearly in the frequency to which I’ve encountered UHS students, in relation to the student bodies.)

MAYBE, just MAYBE, UHS students should be required to live on campus (in their own little corner), during the week, and manage time, and class schedules like college students (if they already don’t), in an effort to live a college lifestyle, since that is the overall vicinity of where they are going to school.

I fail to see any connection between being “forced” to come to UHS, and acting immature in college classes. I went to private schools for HS, and if I acted stupid, we were slapped down by our instructors. College professors won’t necessarily do this, because they carry a different brand of ego and demeanor than underpaid private high school teachers. College professors do expect a bit more maturity from their students than that of high schoolers, and will kick out persistently immature individuals. Essentially, the opportunity to come to a college campus for HS is like a private institution in a way … the participants are expected to act and be a bit more mature, considering the educational expectations are at least a little more demanding (keep in mind, it’s just a CSU, not a UC, and definitely not Harvard). Being immature is just what High Schooler’s do, in an adolescent attempt to come into their own. The primary difference is that even the youngest of college students have already gone through most of that physiological phase, and are starting to settle into different phases of young adult-hood, and are already irritated with having left the HS scene (after 4 years of it), only to be encountering it all over again; also while trying to adjust to a new 4-year (or 5 or 6) phase of their life … supposedly “higher education” with “lower minions” milling about.

And here’s the worst part of this dumb situation: One day some stupid, immature Frat Boy, and some stupid immature high schooler are friends, and some high schoolers end up at some drinking frat party … and a high schooler drinks too damn much, or gets into a fight with a frat boy, or rapes a frat girl … all the worst things that can happen, probably eventually will.

Any other High School that comes to this campus for a tour … comes with chaperons … so why in the hell don’t I see them standing about, monitoring UHS student behavior around the USU?

Frankly, all I care about is that UHS students stay the hell out of my way, and don’t take up tables, space, laptop outlets or any other college student resources while on campus. I’m irritated with their presence in the pit, lower floor of the USU … which is where I sit to study. I don’t mind the background noise … but I do mind loud and obnoxious and immature voices rising above the rest of the cacophony, or not paying attention to where they’re going and getting in the way.

I can’t make excuses for all of the immature kids and dumb things that we’ve done, but we are hopefully making a small building on the campus, and breaking ground for it this November, but we can’t scrounge up the money for it, which is why it has been delayed for years. In response to the post above me, this is the solution to the “rivalry” going on between college students and UHS kids. They’re pretty much doing just that, giving us a little corner where we can be, far away from most other classes and the Student Union. It should be in the little “bowl” right off of Keats and…Cedar, i think it is. Or was it Willow? I’m not sure, but i think you know where I’m talking about.

Most of those other kids were forced to come here, which is why so many act so immature in college classes, because, frankly, they don’t care about the great education they’re receiving. I came here because i thought i could make something of myself. I thought i could get a great education from a real college and maybe, just maybe, i could succeed in life. So please, for the sake of me and all of the other kids who are relying on the school for a good education, try not to kick us out. I’m sure quite a few Fresno State Students went to public schools around the area, and i’m sure you know how much of a difference there is between the qualities of education of a public high school and college.

All in all, UHS students really try to avoid college students, to avoid upsetting college students any more than we already have. Please don’t judge the entire tree just based off of the few rotten apples that fall into view.

Try meeting some of us, we aren’t quite as bad as you think we are.

I concur … the little curs are an irritation to say the least. How about a split / alternative lunch hour (supervised) for the brats?

Other problems well addressed. For whatever entitlement they have to come to a “University” oriented High School, they are still out of their element. So far this semester, I’ve seen some of the dumber CSUF students unduly influenced by some of the more street-smart (intelligent) High Schoolers … while that interaction did not affect me, it proves some interesting points of view, as well as serving as an irritation for what “higher education” is slowly becoming.

I concur … give the rug rats a corner to play on, away from cars.

Unfortunately, even CSUF students get in the way of cars on a regular basis … though it be an irritation in and of itself, I bring my bike to campus daily to zip in and out of human, cart, bike, car and University “Police” traffic (one of these days they’re gonna pull me over and give me a ration for being irrational and aggressive on my bike w/ out a helmet).

Fact … the “law” protects pedestrians’ “right of way.” Ever been to London … if you’re a dumb enough human to put your 100-450 lbs in front of a 4K lbs car … there are no penalties for the driver who couldn’t stop in time for the stupid human (a closer rule of law to natural selection appeals to my sense of being). In some ways, the laws in the United States are meant to protect the stupid at the expense of the unconscious.

So on this point of a High Schooler running out in front of your car, on the legal premise, I say you’re wrong … but on the humanistic side of sense-and-sensibility (rationality, actually), I say run the rug rats over, naturally select who belongs on campus. Hell, run over a few of the CSUF Peds chatting on their cell phones, walking blindly into Crosswalks. Besides, in July it will be illegal for us drivers to hold Cell Phones to our ears while driving … why shouldn’t road-bound peds be bound by the same rules (face the same consequences for the resultant set of infracted distraction policy).

Meh.
$0.02.